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#Post#: 92915--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP's arrived over a month of offence all offences on the
same road
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: October 5, 2025, 10:38 am
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--- Quote from: Believe82 link ---
>
> 3. Since they wont suspend my license until I start
identifying myself, would it hurt me asking for extended payment
I if identified them at the end of the 20 day notice?
>
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What is this "the 20 day notice" of which you speak?
You have apparently received 7 NIPs, all dated between 40 days
and 58 days after the respective dates of offence, issued in 2
batches 8 days apart.
At first blush, if the RK receives a NIP ~6 weeks after the date
of offence, the most likely explanation is that an earlier NIP
was issued in time to be served within the 14 days, but
apparently was never delivered, and the sausage machine
generated a "reminder" when no response was received.
Or that the "RK" is not the RK - although apparently in this
case, you are.
For 7 NIPs (or more) to be lost in the post, but 7 "reminders"
to be delivered promptly is implausible.
For "reminders" to be issued in 2 batches, as opposed to a set
period after each individual s. 172 response was due, there was
IMHO likely to be a conscious intervention/override.
#Post#: 92917--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP's arrived over a month of offence all offences on the
same road
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: October 5, 2025, 11:15 am
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> What about the first NIP he received and paid the COFP without
question? If that too turns out to have been late can he get
the money and points back?
>
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No (as a matter of law).
#Post#: 92920--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP's arrived over a month of offence all offences on the
same road
DIR By: Believe82
Date: October 5, 2025, 11:50 am
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--- Quote from: Gilan02 link ---
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> You say that you have not moved in over a year but the V5C is
over two years old?
>
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Sorry Im lost track of when I moved. Its over 2 years
#Post#: 92921--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP's arrived over a month of offence all offences on the
same road
DIR By: Believe82
Date: October 5, 2025, 11:53 am
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--- Quote from: andy_foster link ---
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> [quote author=Believe82 link=topic=8287.msg92864#msg92864
date=1759658862]
> 3. Since they wont suspend my license until I start
identifying myself, would it hurt me asking for extended payment
I if identified them at the end of the 20 day notice?
>
--- End Quote ---
What is this "the 20 day notice" of which you speak?
You have apparently received 7 NIPs, all dated between 40 days
and 58 days after the respective dates of offence, issued in 2
batches 8 days apart.
At first blush, if the RK receives a NIP ~6 weeks after the date
of offence, the most likely explanation is that an earlier NIP
was issued in time to be served within the 14 days, but
apparently was never delivered, and the sausage machine
generated a "reminder" when no response was received.
Or that the "RK" is not the RK - although apparently in this
case, you are.
For 7 NIPs (or more) to be lost in the post, but 7 "reminders"
to be delivered promptly is implausible.
For "reminders" to be issued in 2 batches, as opposed to a set
period after each individual s. 172 response was due, there was
IMHO likely to be a conscious intervention/override.
[/quote]
On the NIP I receive it says "28 days from this notice" and the
date on the top is of 02/10.
Nowhere there is a August or September date.
Should it say reminder anywhere in the notice? Cause it doesn't.
If it is what you say a conscious intervention, is there some
grounds for a defence?
#Post#: 92922--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP's arrived over a month of offence all offences on the
same road
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: October 5, 2025, 11:59 am
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Your use of American spelling is really starting to make my
teeth itch.
#Post#: 92923--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP's arrived over a month of offence all offences on the
same road
DIR By: Believe82
Date: October 5, 2025, 12:09 pm
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--- Quote from: Southpaw82 link ---
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> Your use of American spelling is really starting to make my
teeth itch.
>
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sorry my phone auto-correct was set to that.
I have just fixed all my posts.
#Post#: 92927--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP's arrived over a month of offence all offences on the
same road
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: October 5, 2025, 12:55 pm
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Marvellous.
#Post#: 92928--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP's arrived over a month of offence all offences on the
same road
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: October 5, 2025, 12:58 pm
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--- Quote from: Believe82 link ---
>
> Should it say reminder anywhere in the notice? Cause it
doesn't. If it is what you say a conscious intervention, is
there some grounds for a defence?
>
--- End Quote ---
No. That is why we are trying to find out whether they are
simply late, reminders or "something else".
Not in and of itself. It depends on what has and has not
happened - which is something we currently know very little
about.
#Post#: 93051--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP's arrived over a month of offence all offences on the
same road
DIR By: BertB
Date: October 6, 2025, 9:10 am
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This is generally (at least on here and the previous forum
incarnation) unheard of.
As Andy points out, the notices for various different offence
dates are batched together into two different dates, with some
of those dates in the second batch earlier offences than the
first batch of notices. Which just makes it all the more
unconventional. Usual reasons for this which you seem to have
mostly ruled out are:
Moved address since issue of V5C
Recently bought the vehicle
Vehicle is leased or financed
The registered keeper of the vehicle is someone else at the same
address and the OP has been named by them as the rider/driver at
the time.
If none of these are a factor then there is scope to look at an
out of time defence.
edit: removed unintentional bold
#Post#: 105404--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP's arrived over a month of offence all offences on the
same road
DIR By: Believe82
Date: January 11, 2026, 9:07 am
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So I come back to this forum because I am still waiting for the
outcome of this.
I identified myself in November for all the charges (still
inside limit)
I also received a letter that I would be notified of court
hearing.
Since then there has been no contact at all.
How long does it usually take for them to book dates?
What is the time limit on my charges?
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