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       #Post#: 92893--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP's arrived over a month of offence all offences on the sa
       me road
       By: Believe82 Date: October 5, 2025, 7:43 am
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       [quote author=FuzzyDuck link=topic=8287.msg92890#msg92890
       date=1759665815]
       Payment isn't going to be a problem (in the short term). After
       you have accepted the 3rd offence, you will not be offered a
       Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty as another 3 points would
       cause you to tot up.
       So all the following offences will see you attending court, at
       which you will banned for 6 months unless you can come up with a
       compelling exceptional hardship argument that court accepts.
       Court fines can sometimes paid in instalments.
       [/quote]
       Alright this is good news. I will wait to end of next week then
       to identify the others.
       #Post#: 92897--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP's arrived over a month of offence all offences on the sa
       me road
       By: JustLoveCars Date: October 5, 2025, 7:54 am
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       [quote author=Believe82 link=topic=8287.msg92892#msg92892
       date=1759668054]
       The V5C did not change hands.
       [/quote]Sorry to press but when I said 'to hand' I meant fish it
       out...
       #Post#: 92900--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP's arrived over a month of offence all offences on the sa
       me road
       By: Believe82 Date: October 5, 2025, 8:14 am
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       [quote author=JustLoveCars link=topic=8287.msg92897#msg92897
       date=1759668869]
       [quote author=Believe82 link=topic=8287.msg92892#msg92892
       date=1759668054]
       The V5C did not change hands.
       [/quote]
       Sorry to press but when I said 'to hand' I meant fish it out...
       [/quote]
       I have it at hand yes
       #Post#: 92902--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP's arrived over a month of offence all offences on the sa
       me road
       By: JustLoveCars Date: October 5, 2025, 8:18 am
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       [quote author=Believe82 link=topic=8287.msg92900#msg92900
       date=1759670064]
       [quote author=JustLoveCars link=topic=8287.msg92897#msg92897
       date=1759668869]
       [quote author=Believe82 link=topic=8287.msg92892#msg92892
       date=1759668054]
       The V5C did not change hands.
       [/quote]
       Sorry to press but when I said 'to hand' I meant fish it out...
       [/quote]
       I have it at hand yes
       [/quote]
       At the bottom of page 2 is a DOC REF date in DD MM YY format -
       what does it say?  (This is the date the DVLA issued this V5C)
       #Post#: 92903--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP's arrived over a month of offence all offences on the sa
       me road
       By: andy_foster Date: October 5, 2025, 8:21 am
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       What is the date after the DocRefNo. at the bottom of page 2 of
       your V5C?[quote author=Believe82
       link=topic=8287.msg92864#msg92864 date=1759658862]
       Chronology of the NIPs and actual status:
       Identified:
       Offense on the 13/08 - NIP 24/09 - paid (at time I thought I had
       only 2 so I paid one and was going to pay the second)
       Offense on the 11/08 - NIP 24/09 - Identified COFP 30/09 (was
       going to pay this at the end of the month as I dont have money
       at the moment)
       Yet to Identify myself:
       Offense on the 05/08 - NIP 02/10
       Offense on the 07/08 - NIP 02/10
       Offense on the 14/08 - NIP 02/10
       Offense on the 19/08 - NIP 02/10
       Offense on the 22/08 - NIP 02/10[/quote]
       NIP <date> is meaningless as written. Is that the date the NIP
       was issued (the date printed on the NIP) or the date it was
       delivered?
       What is the date at the bottom left of page 2 of your V5C (just
       to the left of the barcode)?
       #Post#: 92906--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP's arrived over a month of offence all offences on the sa
       me road
       By: Believe82 Date: October 5, 2025, 8:56 am
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       [quote author=andy_foster link=topic=8287.msg92903#msg92903
       date=1759670510]
       What is the date after the DocRefNo. at the bottom of page 2 of
       your V5C?
       [quote author=Believe82 link=topic=8287.msg92864#msg92864
       date=1759658862]
       Chronology of the NIPs and actual status:
       Identified:
       Offence on the 13/08 - NIP 24/09 - paid (at time I thought I had
       only 2 so I paid one and was going to pay the second)
       Offence on the 11/08 - NIP 24/09 - Identified COFP 30/09 (was
       going to pay this at the end of the month as I dont have money
       at the moment)
       Yet to Identify myself:
       Offence on the 05/08 - NIP 02/10
       Offence on the 07/08 - NIP 02/10
       Offence on the 14/08 - NIP 02/10
       Offence on the 19/08 - NIP 02/10
       Offence on the 22/08 - NIP 02/10[/quote]
       NIP <date> is meaningless as written. Is that the date the NIP
       was issued (the date printed on the NIP) or the date it was
       delivered?
       What is the date at the bottom left of page 2 of your V5C (just
       to the left of the barcode)?
       [/quote]
       These are the dates on the NIP document, they arrived 2 days
       after at least the ones from October did.
       Day on V5C 26 08 23
       #Post#: 92908--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP's arrived over a month of offence all offences on the sa
       me road
       By: JustLoveCars Date: October 5, 2025, 9:21 am
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       [quote author=Believe82 link=topic=8287.msg92906#msg92906
       date=1759672588]
       These are the dates on the NIP document, they arrived 2 days
       after at least the ones from October did.
       Day on V5C 26 08 23
       [/quote]
       2 days would be in the post.
       Well, as far as I can tell, you have a defence to the speeding
       charges as the NIP's were not served in time, i.e. the '14 day
       rule'.
       (But note the part about nominating the driver as this is a
       separate offence not requiring the 14 days).
       Either there is something or the camera unit are 'trying it on'.
       (Of course, if you name the driver and just pay and take the
       points they aren't going to 'complain')
       You may wish to call them tomorrow and ask why they are issuing
       NIP's after the 14 day requirement and see what they say...
       #Post#: 92910--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP's arrived over a month of offence all offences on the sa
       me road
       By: ManxTom Date: October 5, 2025, 10:05 am
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       [quote author=JustLoveCars link=topic=8287.msg92908#msg92908
       date=1759674098]
       ... You may wish to call them tomorrow and ask why they are
       issuing NIP's after the 14 day requirement and see what they
       say...
       [/quote]
       This ^
       If the OP is the RK and has been for over a year, he needs to
       find out if the NIPs he received more than 14 days after the
       alleged speeding offences were the first NIPs or were reminders.
       What about the first NIP he received and paid the COFP without
       question?  If that too turns out to have been late can he get
       the money and points back?
       #Post#: 92912--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP's arrived over a month of offence all offences on the sa
       me road
       By: Believe82 Date: October 5, 2025, 10:08 am
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       Will definitely call them tomorrow
       #Post#: 92913--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP's arrived over a month of offence all offences on the sa
       me road
       By: Gilan02 Date: October 5, 2025, 10:17 am
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       You say that you have not moved in over a year but the V5C is
       over two years old?
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