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#Post#: 92822--------------------------------------------------
Ealing Council, 50JR - Performing a prohibited turn (No right
turn), Malden Ave/Whitton Ave West Greenford (U) UB6 0EG
DIR By: Dave1UK
Date: October 4, 2025, 9:55 am
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I went to pick up a Facebook purchase on Whitton Avenue West,
the road is a long busy road at times. After picking up the
purchase, I didn't want to travel to the end of the road to then
just drive back down. I also didn't want to be making a U-turn
on a busy main road. Malden Avenue being the closest side road
from where I parked meant I drove in, performed a U-turn and
headed back out to proceed home.
I don't recall seeing any signage i.e. no right turn
prohibition. This may have been due to the sign being visually
obscured by a tall vehicle? Or I just wasn't as vigilant as I
should have been.
Checking Google Maps street view history the sign has been
present throughout the years since 2008, with a camera installed
in 2018. There is only 1 sign present, don't understand why they
couldn't put one on the other side as well would be better
situated within a drivers view?
I checked the PCN image and video and it does show me taking a
turn. The image and video also have a longitude/latitude (GPS)
stamp which correlates to the location mentioned on the PCN.
However the image and video is cropped and doesn't show much
i.e. the lamp post with the signage? Even though it would be
from the rear view point at least to prove it was present at the
date and time? Or whether there were any tall vehicles parked
nearby obscuring the view of the sign? Without the
longitude/latitude on the image/video this could have happened
absolutely anywhere.
The last PCN I received was several years back but I
specifically recall the video showing the contravention (was a
U-turn) and then pointing the camera at the signage i.e. no
U-turn within x number of yards.
PCN Letter:
HTML https://i.ibb.co/vbzNDdQ/Cam-Scanner-Page-1.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/vbzNDdQ<br
/>
HTML https://i.ibb.co/gb2Q2zkc/Cam-Scanner-Page-2.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/gb2Q2zkc<br
/>
HTML https://i.ibb.co/kgYVZ9sN/Cam-Scanner-Page-3.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/kgYVZ9sN
PCN Image:
HTML https://i.ibb.co/bRMwLLK4/fdfdf.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/bRMwLLK4
Street View:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/1XWpC82UzNnT3Yjd7
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/1XWpC82UzNnT3Yjd7
#Post#: 92847--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing Council, 50JR - Performing a prohibited turn (No
right turn), Malden Ave/Whitton Ave West Greenford (U) UB6 0
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: October 4, 2025, 1:51 pm
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I can't get Ealing's site to work with:
AO06932996
LT64UFW
Am I reading these right?
#Post#: 92857--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing Council, 50JR - Performing a prohibited turn (No
right turn), Malden Ave/Whitton Ave West Greenford (U) UB6 0
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 4, 2025, 6:19 pm
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> I can't get Ealing's site to work with:
>
> AO06932996
> LT64UFW
>
> Am I reading these right?
>
--- End Quote ---
I typed them in from their PCN and get the same result.
#Post#: 92967--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing Council, 50JR - Performing a prohibited turn (No
right turn), Malden Ave/Whitton Ave West Greenford (U) UB6 0
DIR By: Dave1UK
Date: October 6, 2025, 4:22 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> I can't get Ealing's site to work with:
>
> AO06932996
> LT64UFW
>
> Am I reading these right?
>
--- End Quote ---
--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> I can't get Ealing's site to work with:
>
> AO06932996
> LT64UFW
>
> Am I reading these right?
>
--- End Quote ---
Hi both,
Apologies for the delayed response, just saw the messages as
emails went to Junk!
The PCN number should be: AO06938996.
Just tried and works for me.
Thanks.
#Post#: 93000--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing Council, 50JR - Performing a prohibited turn (No
right turn), Malden Ave/Whitton Ave West Greenford (U) UB6 0
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 6, 2025, 5:23 am
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--- Quote from: Dave1UK link ---
>
> [quote author=stamfordman link=topic=8280.msg92847#msg92847
date=1759603894]
> I can't get Ealing's site to work with:
>
> AO06932996
> LT64UFW
>
> Am I reading these right?
>
--- End Quote ---
--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> I can't get Ealing's site to work with:
>
> AO06932996
> LT64UFW
>
> Am I reading these right?
>
--- End Quote ---
Hi both,
Apologies for the delayed response, just saw the messages as
emails went to Junk!
The PCN number should be: AO06938996.
Just tried and works for me.
Thanks.
[/quote]
OK, but that's not the number on the PCN ! The PCN number is
quite clear and shows ...2996
#Post#: 93034--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing Council, 50JR - Performing a prohibited turn (No
right turn), Malden Ave/Whitton Ave West Greenford (U) UB6 0
DIR By: Dave1UK
Date: October 6, 2025, 7:13 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> [quote author=Dave1UK link=topic=8280.msg92967#msg92967
date=1759742559]
> [quote author=stamfordman link=topic=8280.msg92847#msg92847
date=1759603894]
> I can't get Ealing's site to work with:
>
> AO06932996
> LT64UFW
>
> Am I reading these right?
>
--- End Quote ---
--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> I can't get Ealing's site to work with:
>
> AO06932996
> LT64UFW
>
> Am I reading these right?
>
--- End Quote ---
Hi both,
Apologies for the delayed response, just saw the messages as
emails went to Junk!
The PCN number should be: AO06938996.
Just tried and works for me.
Thanks.
[/quote]
OK, but that's not the number on the PCN ! The PCN number is
quite clear and shows ...2996
[/quote]
The letter I have in my hand shows AO06938996 not 2996. I can
see now that scanned copy shows 2996 for some reason. I am
unable to edit the upload but can upload a photo instead again
if needed. I used an app called Camscanner not sure whether that
messed something up as when taking the photo it was scanning the
document or something?
#Post#: 107177--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing Council, 50JR - Performing a prohibited turn (No
right turn), Malden Ave/Whitton Ave West Greenford (U) UB6 0
DIR By: Salsa_temps
Date: January 24, 2026, 3:52 am
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Hi, noobie here, I'm kicking myself. I live locally - I went
from South Harrow to Greenford a couple of times in a day, we
have a new car so I didn't go round the back roads and instead I
went along Whitton Avenue West then turned right into Malden
Avenue - twice in one day - and now I have received 2 PCNs.
Coming up to the junction:
- there's a 20mph sign, with a no right turn sign,
- then there's zebra crossing,
- then there is a no right turn sign between the zebra crossing
and the turning
- immediately before the turning, there is no visible no entry
sign or no right turn sign
- and then, turning into Malden Ave there's a bus stop, and
seven restriction signs.
[p]I have to say that I was concentrating on the zebra crossing
and keeping my speed down to 20mph I could see the restriction
signs .. what I didn't notice was the no right turn signs!![/p]
My viewpoint was that, because I didn't see the signs twice in
one day, even though they're visible, the signs are not
prominent enough when you're having to drive at 20mph (which
takes a lot of concentration on the speedo!) it's too easy to
miss.
here's the link to google maps, approaching the junction
HTML https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5529339,-0.3434335,3a,75y,79.42h,78.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s1BvfwX4483ZrbN9PJQXwwA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D11.973650349026002%26panoid%3D1BvfwX4483ZrbN9PJQXwwA%26yaw%3D79.41980328631463!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDEyMS4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2N0gBUAM%3D
Here's a link to google maps, immediately before the junction,
where there isn't a no right turn sign
HTML https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5530439,-0.3428724,3a,75y,101.91h,84.34t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sug-NMt5PPi4ptWOWNVuZhQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D5.662909931850336%26panoid%3Dug-NMt5PPi4ptWOWNVuZhQ%26yaw%3D101.90643835192597!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDEyMS4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2N0gBUAM%3D
on google maps, as you actually get to the junction, a no right
turn is not present.
[member=7009]Dave1UK[/member] - did you appeal?
Does anyone else have any thoughts?
#Post#: 107179--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing Council, 50JR - Performing a prohibited turn (No
right turn), Malden Ave/Whitton Ave West Greenford (U) UB6 0
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: January 24, 2026, 4:42 am
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--- Quote from: Salsa_temps link ---
>
> Hi, noobie here, I'm kicking myself. I live locally - I went
from South Harrow to Greenford a couple of times in a day, we
have a new car so I didn't go round the back roads and instead I
went along Whitton Avenue West then turned right into Malden
Avenue - twice in one day - and now I have received 2 PCNs.
>
> Coming up to the junction:
>
>
- there's a 20mph sign, with a no right turn sign,
>
- then there's zebra crossing,
>
- then there is a no right turn sign between the zebra crossing
and the turning
>
- immediately before the turning, there is no visible no entry
sign or no right turn sign
>
- and then, turning into Malden Ave there's a bus stop, and
seven restriction signs.
>
>
> [p]I have to say that I was concentrating on the zebra
crossing and keeping my speed down to 20mph I could see the
restriction signs .. what I didn't notice was the no right turn
signs!![/p]
>
> My viewpoint was that, because I didn't see the signs twice in
one day, even though they're visible, the signs are not
prominent enough when you're having to drive at 20mph (which
takes a lot of concentration on the speedo!) it's too easy to
miss.
>
> here's the link to google maps, approaching the junction
HTML https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5529339,-0.3434335,3a,75y,79.42h,78.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s1BvfwX4483ZrbN9PJQXwwA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D11.973650349026002%26panoid%3D1BvfwX4483ZrbN9PJQXwwA%26yaw%3D79.41980328631463!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDEyMS4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2N0gBUAM%3D
>
>
> Here's a link to google maps, immediately before the junction,
where there isn't a no right turn sign
HTML https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5530439,-0.3428724,3a,75y,101.91h,84.34t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sug-NMt5PPi4ptWOWNVuZhQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D5.662909931850336%26panoid%3Dug-NMt5PPi4ptWOWNVuZhQ%26yaw%3D101.90643835192597!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDEyMS4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2N0gBUAM%3D
>
> on google maps, as you actually get to the junction, a no
right turn is not present.
>
> [member=7009]Dave1UK[/member] - did you appeal?
>
> Does anyone else have any thoughts?
>
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