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Re: PCN number: PK65201252,Canal Street Multi Storey Car Park
Perth, parking in an area reserved for Council Vehicles on
DIR By: Verdomde
Date: January 30, 2024, 4:47 am
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
> OP, why do you post beheaded docs?
>
> The CC omits its date! Pl repost so that all 4 sides are
visible, this way we know that everything which needs to be
displayed is displayed.
>
> If, as I suspect, this is simply a case of your letter being
delivered a little later than the last permitted date (actual
delivery being irrelevant in law, it's the presumed date which
counts) then you just need to bring this to the council's
attention - their website even has a chat link. You would not be
arguing the toss about your reps, simply that the CC was
premature. In reality, any council which simply times its
processes with a hair trigger at this time of year is foolish.
The legal reality is that they had no power to issue the CC if
your reps were posted* on 1 Dec.
>
> *- posted doesn't mean posting at 10.30pm on 1st in a post box
whose next collection was Mon. 2pm, it means posting so that it
entered the mail service no later than Sat.
>
> While you're reposting, pl confirm that the postal address
used was the one in the NTO.
>
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What is a CC? I'll look back and see if I can work that out, and
repost for you if I find it. It kind of sounds from context like
its the demand for £150, that's been dismissed it seems as the
latest request was for £100
The letters seem to have gotten through and been looked at
(though dismissed it seems)
The chat link on the website doesn't work, I complained to them
about that in my first letter too.
Time, I think has answered most of your queries, as they did get
back to me.. Sorry about the delay in response- dont know why I
didn't get an email, Notify of replies is checked by default,
maybe it went to spam or something. But I appreciate your help
#Post#: 14600--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN number: PK65201252,Canal Street Multi Storey Car Park
Perth, parking in an area reserved for Council Vehicles on
DIR By: Verdomde
Date: January 30, 2024, 4:51 am
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Re: PCN number: PK65201252,Canal Street Multi Storey Car Park
Perth, parking in an area reserved for Council Vehicles on
DIR By: Verdomde
Date: January 30, 2024, 4:52 am
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Re: PCN number: PK65201252,Canal Street Multi Storey Car Park
Perth, parking in an area reserved for Council Vehicles on
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: January 30, 2024, 8:53 am
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They have not re-offered the discount so it is now a total
no-brainer to take them to adjudication as the penalty remains
the same, and there are no additional costs.
#Post#: 14628--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN number: PK65201252,Canal Street Multi Storey Car Park
Perth, parking in an area reserved for Council Vehicles on
DIR By: Verdomde
Date: January 30, 2024, 10:11 am
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A bit stuck on this bit
Please select the ground(s) of appeal that are relevant to your
case. You will need to check the Notice of Rejection issued by
the local authority to determine whether the alleged parking
contravention relates to a Pavement Parking, Double Parking or
Dropped Footway Prohibition as not all of the grounds of appeal
listed below apply to that type of contravention. If you are
unsure, please tick the last box.
You can select multiple grounds of appeal.
Should I pick
The alleged contravention did not occur (all parking appeals).
For example: The signs and lines were wrong, the penalty was not
served, the alleged events did not happen, the vehicle was
entitled to park, loading or unloading was taking place, a
passenger was boarding or alighting, a valid disabled badge was
displayed or a valid pay and display ticket was displayed.
Or
The Traffic Regulation Order was invalid (does not apply to
Pavement Parking, Double Parking or Dropped Footway Prohibition
appeals).
TROs are bylaws – created by councils – which specify parking
restrictions and the conditions under which vehicles may park.
Or Both, guessing just the first one..
#Post#: 14722--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN number: PK65201252,Canal Street Multi Storey Car Park
Perth, parking in an area reserved for Council Vehicles on
DIR By: Verdomde
Date: February 1, 2024, 3:51 am
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Going for option 1 only
#Post#: 14762--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN number: PK65201252,Canal Street Multi Storey Car Park
Perth, parking in an area reserved for Council Vehicles on
DIR By: Verdomde
Date: February 1, 2024, 8:55 am
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Wowsa,
I sent this as my appeal at 11:00 today (and a copy of the PCN)
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/dsbzaaq4te5bb8oijgtfa/PK65201252.docx?rlkey=2b7zc0m1nhkea5b9zo1ngrk5v&dl=0
and got an email stating this at 14:00
The authority has decided not to contest your appeal. This means
that you have won your appeal and the case is closed.
Can I have more information on why the authority has made this
decision?
Yes, you can view the reasons why the authority is not
contesting this appeal in your online case file:
HTML https://foam.transportappeals.scot/case_files/#/show/6000/decisions/decisions
If the text above does not appear as a link, please copy and
paste it into your web browser to view.
Do I need to do anything now?
No, you have nothing to pay and need take no further action.
Am I eligible for costs?
Costs are not usually awarded; however, there may be exceptions
if the adjudicator finds that the authority’s decision to reject
the initial representation was unreasonable.
For further details on the Costs process, please email
transportappeals@scotcourtstribunals.gov.uk
That's a turn up for the books, so fast- I assume they just roll
over most of the time without checking the validity of the
appeal? As I feel my document wasn't exactly proffesional :D
I will see if the case notes say more and revert
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Re: PCN number: PK65201252,Canal Street Multi Storey Car Park
Perth, parking in an area reserved for Council Vehicles on
DIR By: Verdomde
Date: February 1, 2024, 8:59 am
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The authorities reason for not contesting the appeal are
"Parking Attendant used an old printer roll and unhappy with
quality of responses to informal and formal appeal."
I guess the first is an excuse for the mismatched amounts on the
front and back of the PCN, and the last is them saying they are
just being nice as I was unhappy at my previous appeals not
being accepted?
At any rate it's a win, quick and easy and I am happy
Thanks to all on here for all your help
Pains me to think they won't change the signage though and more
people will fall prey to them :/
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