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Latest road deaths stats
By: roythebus Date: October 2, 2025, 2:58 pm
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HTML https://groundtransportgroup.com/news-and-media/1671-killed-on-uk-roads-as-department-for-transport-releases-latest-road-casualty-figures/
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Re: Latest road deaths stats
By: MyronAub Date: October 3, 2025, 4:16 am
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[quote][list]
[li]There has been no significant reduction in UK road deaths
and serious injuries over the past five years.[/li]
[li]Brake is calling on the Government to adopt measures that
are known to save lives, including: Default 20 mph speed limits
on roads in built‑up and residential areas[/li]
[/list][/quote]
Considering that 20mph limits have been in place in Wales for
two years now, and for longer in some parts of England, those
statements would appear to be at odds with each other...
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Re: Latest road deaths stats
By: DrSatan Date: October 3, 2025, 5:46 am
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The devil will be in the detail - if 20mph limits have saved
(for example) 30 lives in built up areas and Larry Leadfoot has
smashed into a bus at 135mph on the motorway killing 30 people,
the overall numbers will be the same and the 20mph zone can save
lives.
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Re: Latest road deaths stats
By: MyronAub Date: October 3, 2025, 6:05 am
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[quote author=DrSatan link=topic=8267.msg92673#msg92673
date=1759488374]
The devil will be in the detail - if 20mph limits have saved
(for example) 30 lives in built up areas and Larry Leadfoot has
smashed into a bus at 135mph on the motorway killing 30 people,
the overall numbers will be the same and the 20mph zone can save
lives.
[/quote]
Not if Larry Leadfoot was travelling at 135mph because he was
tired, angry, frustrated and now late for a very important
meeting after having to crawl at 20mph along numerous Welsh
roads. ;D
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Re: Latest road deaths stats
By: Boomer Date: October 3, 2025, 7:13 am
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Well we can expect road accidents and deaths to plummet in
Birmingham, as they are reducing nearly all 40mph limits down to
30mph.
I never knew about this until earlier today when it turns out
that Chester Road North has been dropped to a thirty by simply
removing the 40mph signs at the Queslett Road roundabout, and
also disappearing the 40mph repeaters.
Some info here
HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c237959e8xzo
Useful maps are at Be Heard
HTML https://www.birminghambeheard.org.uk/bcc/speedlimit_30mph_tro/
You would have thought that such an important change would have
involved massive publicity and vehicle activated signs and all
kinds of roadside warning, but i must have missed all that :(
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Re: Latest road deaths stats
By: stamfordman Date: October 3, 2025, 7:59 am
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Birmingham drivers are among the worst and the city has lagged
badly in traffic calming.
My son is a radiologist at QEH and sees a lot of horrendous
traffic 'accidents' - on nights last weekend these included a
young woman he reported as brain dead and a man with a collapsed
lung who needed immediate surgery.
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Re: Latest road deaths stats
By: mickR Date: October 3, 2025, 8:31 am
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[quote author=stamfordman link=topic=8267.msg92689#msg92689
date=1759496359]
Birmingham drivers are among the worst and the city has lagged
badly in traffic calming.
My son is a radiologist at QEH and sees a lot of horrendous
traffic 'accidents' - on nights last weekend these included a
young woman he reported as brain dead and a man with a collapsed
lung who needed immediate surgery.
[/quote]
what road type were those accidents on?
urban? rural? mway?
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Re: Latest road deaths stats
By: stamfordman Date: October 3, 2025, 10:02 am
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I doubt A&E are concerned with the road type but probably get
info on nature of accident such as speeds. There are stats on
incidents by road collected by the police of course.
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Re: Latest road deaths stats
By: Boomer Date: October 3, 2025, 10:09 am
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[quote author=stamfordman link=topic=8267.msg92717#msg92717
date=1759503767]
I doubt A&E are concerned with the road type but probably get
info on nature of accident such as speeds. There are stats on
incidents by road collected by the police of course.
[/quote]
So where is the evidence of your claim that "Birmingham drivers
are among the worst and the city has lagged badly in traffic
calming."?
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Re: Latest road deaths stats
By: stamfordman Date: October 3, 2025, 10:13 am
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The council declared a road safety emergency last year.
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