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       Re: Newham 01a - tempoary parking suspension - Tarling Road
   DIR By: taffer87
       Date: November 17, 2025, 8:36 am
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       > I submitted this as informal challenge again. Most likely they
       will reject and say I have to wait for NTO now.
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       > "I submitted an informal challenge which was rejected. However
       as part of the challenge I had requested a copy of the traffic
       order cited in the PCN contravention grounds. This was not
       supplied with the rejection and was ignored in the response.
       Could you please supply this traffic order whose alleged breach
       has led to the contravention cited in the PCN.
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       > Regards"
       >
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       Newham replied saying I should submit a FOI request if I want
       this.. I just did this however now it will take me over the
       period of the discounted window
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       Re: Newham 01a - tempoary parking suspension - Tarling Road
   DIR By: taffer87
       Date: December 17, 2025, 4:47 am
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       [member=428]H C Andersen[/member] and other senior members
       here is the TTO i received from FOI request. Please if you can
       advise what you think
       I still have not received a NTO from Newham
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       Re: Newham 01a - tempoary parking suspension - Tarling Road
   DIR By: taffer87
       Date: December 22, 2025, 4:51 am
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       Have now received the NTO too. Can someone please help me here
       with formal reps to the council
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       #Post#: 103639--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Newham 01a - tempoary parking suspension - Tarling Road
   DIR By: taffer87
       Date: December 23, 2025, 4:14 am
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       Bump - will really appreciate advice from any experienced
       members here.
       #Post#: 103673--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Newham 01a - tempoary parking suspension - Tarling Road
   DIR By: bees
       Date: December 23, 2025, 10:45 am
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       --- Quote from: taffer87 link ---
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       > Bump - will really appreciate advice from any experienced
       members here.
       >
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       I am in a very similar situation like you. After spending months
       here on this PCN, what do you think ? What is your thought
       process ?
       #Post#: 103699--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Newham 01a - tempoary parking suspension - Tarling Road
   DIR By: taffer87
       Date: December 23, 2025, 2:35 pm
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       Well now I have to pay the full amount anyway so it makes sense
       to submit formal reps and go all the way to tribunal. Hoping
       someone here will be kind enlightened to guide a bit more in
       detail - appreciate it’s the holiday and Xmas season so a lot
       may not be that active
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       Re: Newham 01a - tempoary parking suspension - Tarling Road
   DIR By: bees
       Date: December 24, 2025, 6:57 am
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       --- Quote from: taffer87 link ---
       >
       > Well now I have to pay the full amount anyway so it makes
       sense to submit formal reps and go all the way to tribunal.
       Hoping someone here will be kind enlightened to guide a bit more
       in detail - appreciate it’s the holiday and Xmas season so a lot
       may not be that active
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I am exactly in a similar situation as you. I genuinely didn't
       see the board which was up (not sure how long it was up). Here
       is the link.
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       #Post#: 103783--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Newham 01a - tempoary parking suspension - Tarling Road
   DIR By: taffer87
       Date: December 25, 2025, 7:14 am
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       Just bumping this again for experienced members to help please
       #Post#: 103882--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Newham 01a - tempoary parking suspension - Tarling Road
   DIR By: Grant Urismo
       Date: December 27, 2025, 5:30 pm
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       Don't do anything in a rush, you've got 28 days from the 18th
       December to respond, so take the time to get all your ducks in a
       row, and wait for more experienced forum members to chip in
       before doing anything.
       Having said that, I think your list of likely winning arguments
       is pretty lengthy, and I would be surprised if they don't drop
       the PCN before an adjudicator gets to see how much of a mess
       they made.
       1) There's no evidence of any actual suspension signs, just an
       advanced warning notice. The order says it's only valid at "such
       times then appropriate traffic signs are displayed in accordance
       with TSRGD 2016(c)", and that "Parking restrictions will apply
       when the appropriate signs are displayed", so you will put the
       council to strict proof that such signs were in displayed.
       2) The suspension sign says the restriction lasts "until Monday
       29th September 8am-4pm". As the observation time was after
       8:07-8:19am, the signposted restriction had already ended.
       3) The suspension sign contains incomprehensible gibberish.
       4) PCN is for the wrong contravention (see page 1 of this
       thread)
       5) Failure to consider (as their claim that the right signs were
       in place is complete rubbish)
       6) You will put the council to strict proof that "Tree works -
       Green Space, Cleansing and Gristwood and Toms" occurred after
       08:07 on that day. They will have difficulty proving this as
       it's hopelessly garbled.
       As you say, the full £160 is in play, and that's the upper limit
       if you carry on to the tribunal, so it's a no brainer to fight
       on.
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       Re: Newham 01a - tempoary parking suspension - Tarling Road
   DIR By: taffer87
       Date: December 30, 2025, 3:18 am
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       Thanks for the reply. Understood. Any other views and advice
       welcome. I will start drafting something based on this but quite
       a novice at this
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