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#Post#: 101141--------------------------------------------------
Re: Council Issued PCN for “Parked causing an obstruction”
Location “Outside Garages”
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 5, 2025, 9:31 am
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Surely if the car was parked on-street, only the police can
enforce obstruction with a Fixed Penalty Notice, as the Traffic
Management Act does not include 'obstruction' as a
decriminalised offence ? Therefore the PCN is void.
#Post#: 101191--------------------------------------------------
Re: Council Issued PCN for “Parked causing an obstruction”
Location “Outside Garages”
DIR By: EvaporatedMilkCoffee
Date: December 5, 2025, 12:09 pm
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I submitted the appeal but when I search the PCN it now says
they received my representation in Oct.
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Can anyone clarify please? This must be an admin error on their
end surely?
#Post#: 101206--------------------------------------------------
Re: Council Issued PCN for “Parked causing an obstruction”
Location “Outside Garages”
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: December 5, 2025, 1:45 pm
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It's not relevant at present, you received a NTO and have made
representations against this in time.
They must consider.
[member=12]Incandescent[/member], for better or worse, 'Parked
causing an obstruction' is an approved contravention description
which may be applied to a PCN as the grounds for demanding a
penalty.
#Post#: 101217--------------------------------------------------
Re: Council Issued PCN for “Parked causing an obstruction”
Location “Outside Garages”
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 5, 2025, 5:12 pm
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OK, but the offence is subjective. It's not like yellow lines,
or over time, or outside bay markings.
#Post#: 101265--------------------------------------------------
Re: Council Issued PCN for “Parked causing an obstruction”
Location “Outside Garages”
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: December 6, 2025, 9:08 am
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Absolutely, which is why the TMA excluded on-street obstruction
because the exercise of subjective opinion requires training and
is best left with the police. But they did introduce the '50 cm'
contravention to help councils deal with this form of
parking(double parking), particularly near sports grounds.
#Post#: 101296--------------------------------------------------
Re: Council Issued PCN for “Parked causing an obstruction”
Location “Outside Garages”
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 6, 2025, 12:11 pm
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
> Absolutely, which is why the TMA excluded on-street
obstruction because the exercise of subjective opinion requires
training and is best left with the police. But they did
introduce the '50 cm' contravention to help councils deal with
this form of parking(double parking), particularly near sports
grounds.
>
--- End Quote ---
Fine, but that's the whole point, surely ? The car is not parked
in a car park but on-street.
#Post#: 102481--------------------------------------------------
Re: Council Issued PCN for “Parked causing an obstruction”
Location “Outside Garages”
DIR By: EvaporatedMilkCoffee
Date: December 15, 2025, 5:48 am
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Hi all,
The council has responded to my formal representation.
HTML https://ibb.co/WWCy8m2X
HTML https://ibb.co/CdYD98F
They have also stated they have reinstated the discounted price
of Ł80 as a "Gesture of goodwill".
#Post#: 102495--------------------------------------------------
Re: Council Issued PCN for “Parked causing an obstruction”
Location “Outside Garages”
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: December 15, 2025, 7:03 am
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They are in a muddle.
They note the point about terms but then say you should know
what they are without anything telling you what they are.
They note the area is wide but it's still obstruction...
They say it's off road but parking rules that apply to a road
apply here as per the Highway Code - this is bonkers.
See what others say but I think I'd take it to the tribunal.
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#Post#: 102498--------------------------------------------------
Re: Council Issued PCN for “Parked causing an obstruction”
Location “Outside Garages”
DIR By: EvaporatedMilkCoffee
Date: December 15, 2025, 7:37 am
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My thoughts exactly.
#Post#: 102689--------------------------------------------------
Re: Council Issued PCN for “Parked causing an obstruction”
Location “Outside Garages”
DIR By: EvaporatedMilkCoffee
Date: December 16, 2025, 11:57 am
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Just bumping this if anyone else has anything to add
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