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#Post#: 91941--------------------------------------------------
Civil Enforcement Parking PCN – No Permit – KFC parking
overstayed
DIR By: karan323
Date: September 29, 2025, 5:27 am
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I have received this civil enforcement notice last week kindly
review and let me know the next steps from my end
thank you in advance for your help
Link to image below
HTML https://imgur.com/a/IELOEHP
#Post#: 91945--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Parking PCN – No Permit – KFC parking
overstayed
DIR By: jfollows
Date: September 29, 2025, 5:32 am
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Can you show us the PCN from October 2024?
If not, please tell us what you can and why it was issued.
#Post#: 92030--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Parking PCN – No Permit – KFC parking
overstayed
DIR By: b789
Date: September 29, 2025, 10:45 am
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You can respond to that LBC (LoC) as follows:
--- Quote ---
> Subject: Response to your Letter Before Claim Ref: [reference
number]
>
> Dear Sirs,
>
> Your Letter Before Claim contains insufficient detail of the
claim and fails to provide copies of the evidence you place
reliance upon, putting it in clear breach of the Pre-Action
Protocol for Debt Claims.
>
> As a serial litigator, one would expect you to comply with
paragraphs 3.1(a)–(d), 5.1 and 5.2 of the Protocol, and
paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. These
provisions exist to facilitate informed discussion and
proportionate resolution. You may wish to reacquaint yourselves
with them.
>
> The Civil Procedure Rules 1998, Pre-Action Conduct and
Protocols (Part 3), require the exchange of sufficient
information to understand each other’s position. Part 6
clarifies that this includes disclosure of key documents
relevant to the issues in dispute.
>
> Your template letter refers to a “contract” yet encloses none.
That omission undermines the only foundation upon which your
claim allegedly rests. It is not possible to engage in
meaningful pre-litigation dialogue while you decline to furnish
the very document you purport to enforce.
>
> I confirm that, once I am in receipt of a Letter Before Claim
that complies with para 3.1(a), I shall seek advice and submit a
formal response within 30 days, as required. Accordingly, please
provide:
>
> [indent]1. A copy of the original Notice to Keeper (NtK) and
any notice chain relied upon to assert PoFA 2012
liability.

> 2. A copy of the contract you allege exists between you and
the driver, being an actual photograph of the sign(s) in place
on the material date (not a stock image), together with a site
plan showing the sign locations.

> 3. The precise wording of the clause(s) allegedly breached.
> 
4. The written agreement between you and the landowner
evidencing standing/authority to enforce and to litigate.

> 5. A breakdown of the sums claimed, identifying whether the
principal sum is claimed as consideration or damages, and
whether the £70 “debt recovery” add-on includes
VAT.
[/indent]
>
> I am entitled to this information under paragraphs 6(a) and
6(c) of the Practice Direction, and I require it to meet my own
obligation under paragraph 6(b).
>
> If you fail to provide the above, I will treat that as
non-compliance with the PAPDC and Pre-Action Conduct. I reserve
the right to place this correspondence before the Court and to
seek appropriate sanctions and costs (including, where
appropriate, a stay and/or other case management orders).
>
> Until you comply and provide the requested material, I am
unable to respond properly to the alleged claim or to consider
my position. It would be premature and a waste of costs and
court time to issue proceedings. Should you do so, I will seek
immediate case management relief pursuant to paragraph 15(b) of
the Practice Direction and an order compelling provision of the
above.
>
> Please note, I will not engage with any web portal; I will
only respond by email or post.
>
> Yours faithfully,
>
> [Your name]
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 92308--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Parking PCN – No Permit – KFC parking
overstayed
DIR By: karan323
Date: October 1, 2025, 6:11 am
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--- Quote from: jfollows link ---
>
> Can you show us the PCN from October 2024?
>
> If not, please tell us what you can and why it was issued.
>
--- End Quote ---
Apologies I dont have the copy of original PCN
what should I do about this letter before action ? they have
sent a 10 page reply document with it asking for lot of personal
information not sure if I should fill this.
#Post#: 92309--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Parking PCN – No Permit – KFC parking
overstayed
DIR By: karan323
Date: October 1, 2025, 6:12 am
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--- Quote from: b789 link ---
>
> You can respond to that LBC (LoC) as follows:
>
> [quote]Subject: Response to your Letter Before Claim Ref:
[reference number]
>
> Dear Sirs,
>
> Your Letter Before Claim contains insufficient detail of the
claim and fails to provide copies of the evidence you place
reliance upon, putting it in clear breach of the Pre-Action
Protocol for Debt Claims.
>
> As a serial litigator, one would expect you to comply with
paragraphs 3.1(a)–(d), 5.1 and 5.2 of the Protocol, and
paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. These
provisions exist to facilitate informed discussion and
proportionate resolution. You may wish to reacquaint yourselves
with them.
>
> The Civil Procedure Rules 1998, Pre-Action Conduct and
Protocols (Part 3), require the exchange of sufficient
information to understand each other’s position. Part 6
clarifies that this includes disclosure of key documents
relevant to the issues in dispute.
>
> Your template letter refers to a “contract” yet encloses none.
That omission undermines the only foundation upon which your
claim allegedly rests. It is not possible to engage in
meaningful pre-litigation dialogue while you decline to furnish
the very document you purport to enforce.
>
> I confirm that, once I am in receipt of a Letter Before Claim
that complies with para 3.1(a), I shall seek advice and submit a
formal response within 30 days, as required. Accordingly, please
provide:
>
> [indent]1. A copy of the original Notice to Keeper (NtK) and
any notice chain relied upon to assert PoFA 2012
liability.

> 2. A copy of the contract you allege exists between you and
the driver, being an actual photograph of the sign(s) in place
on the material date (not a stock image), together with a site
plan showing the sign locations.

> 3. The precise wording of the clause(s) allegedly breached.
> 
4. The written agreement between you and the landowner
evidencing standing/authority to enforce and to litigate.

> 5. A breakdown of the sums claimed, identifying whether the
principal sum is claimed as consideration or damages, and
whether the £70 “debt recovery” add-on includes
VAT.
[/indent]
>
> I am entitled to this information under paragraphs 6(a) and
6(c) of the Practice Direction, and I require it to meet my own
obligation under paragraph 6(b).
>
> If you fail to provide the above, I will treat that as
non-compliance with the PAPDC and Pre-Action Conduct. I reserve
the right to place this correspondence before the Court and to
seek appropriate sanctions and costs (including, where
appropriate, a stay and/or other case management orders).
>
> Until you comply and provide the requested material, I am
unable to respond properly to the alleged claim or to consider
my position. It would be premature and a waste of costs and
court time to issue proceedings. Should you do so, I will seek
immediate case management relief pursuant to paragraph 15(b) of
the Practice Direction and an order compelling provision of the
above.
>
> Please note, I will not engage with any web portal; I will
only respond by email or post.
>
> Yours faithfully,
>
> [Your name]
--- End Quote ---
[/quote]
Thank you so much for this template letter. The letter of action
received has no email address so not sure whom to write this
reply to.
#Post#: 92362--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Parking PCN – No Permit – KFC parking
overstayed
DIR By: b789
Date: October 1, 2025, 9:50 am
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Email the letter as a PDF attachment to
dataprotectionofficer@ce-service.co.uk and CC yourself:
--- Quote ---
> Subject: Letter of Claim response – [Your full name] – PCN
[XXXXXXXXXX] – VRM [AB12 CDE]
>
> To: dataprotectionofficer@ce-service.co.uk
>
> Dear Data Protection Officer,
>
> Please find attached my Pre-Action Protocol response to Civil
Enforcement Limited’s Letter of Claim dated [insert date on the
LoC] in respect of PCN [XXXXXXXXXX] (vehicle [AB12 CDE]).
>
> Your public “Contact Us” page does not provide an email
address for your litigation/claims team. Accordingly, I am
sending this to your published DPO address with the instruction
that you must forward this email and the attached PDF to the
relevant department or case handler without delay.
>
> Kindly acknowledge safe receipt by return email. If you
contend this address is not monitored for pre-action
correspondence, please state the correct service email and
confirm that you have forwarded my response internally. Absent
an acknowledgement, I will rely on the delivery record of this
email and attachment as evidence of unreasonable behaviour
should you commence proceedings without first engaging with my
reasonable PAPDC request set out in the attached letter.
>
> For the avoidance of doubt, my attached letter sets out the
information and documents required under the Pre-Action Protocol
for Debt Claims and pauses the timeline accordingly.
>
> I look forward to your prompt acknowledgement.
>
> Yours faithfully,
>
> [Your full name]
>
> [Postal address]
> [Email]
> PCN: [XXXXXXXXXX] | VRM: [AB12 CDE]
> Attachment: LoC Response – [Your Surname] – PCN
[XXXXXXXXXX].pdf
--- End Quote ---
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