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       #Post#: 93588--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 9 Points + 2 incoming NIP's
       By: mrbluejay Date: October 10, 2025, 8:06 am
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       [quote author=NewJudge link=topic=8191.msg93435#msg93435
       date=1759995326]
       I think the issue is this:
       [quote]Her job means so overnight travel, so where that does
       happen I provide that care and there is no other reliable
       alternative.[/quote]
       This will have to be explained in some detail.
       [/quote]
       Hi,
       Yes this is the issue.
       #Post#: 93591--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 9 Points + 2 incoming NIP's
       By: mrbluejay Date: October 10, 2025, 8:10 am
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       [quote author=BertB link=topic=8191.msg93455#msg93455
       date=1760006130]
       Surely the majority of people facing a totting ban are there
       because they risked their licence by continuing to accrue points
       when they were in danger of totting. I very much doubt such a
       question would be asked.
       It may be rhetorical, mentioned after is his plea is rejected,
       but I doubt it being used otherwise.
       However it does not deny the OPs ability to present an EH argue
       to avoid a ban and shouldn't influence under the circumstances.
       Considering the OP would not be able to make the same argument
       twice in quick succession, any avoidance of a ban may be
       academic anyway given their love of collecting points.
       [/quote]
       I don't love collecting points, all of these points coincide
       with getting electric cars and have been 'just' over the limit.
       Before anyone else jumps in, I know this is not an excuse, but
       is there any need for such smug condescension? If you don't wish
       to help, then simply don't.
       #Post#: 93593--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 9 Points + 2 incoming NIP's
       By: Innocentman Date: October 10, 2025, 8:42 am
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       What relevance does the cars being EVs have?
       And 6 & 7 mph over a 30 limit is not "just over".
       Nobody is being smug or condescending - just warning of a
       possible hurdle.
       #Post#: 93594--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 9 Points + 2 incoming NIP's
       By: mrbluejay Date: October 10, 2025, 8:53 am
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       [quote author=Innocentman link=topic=8191.msg93593#msg93593
       date=1760103729]
       What relevance does the cars being EVs have?
       And 6 & 7 mph over a 30 limit is not "just over".
       Nobody is being smug or condescending - just warning of a
       possible hurdle.
       [/quote]
       I qualified the statement by saying I know it is not an excuse.
       I ahve personally found EV's to take some getting used to in
       terms of accelaration, but to be clear I appreciate this is down
       to me and not an excuse.
       Just over referred to the 9 points already on my licence,
       apologies I did not make this clear.
       As for nobody being smug or condescending, I suggest you read
       the last sentence of BertB again.
       #Post#: 93854--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 9 Points + 2 incoming NIP's
       By: BertB Date: October 13, 2025, 3:24 am
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       It wasn't my intention to be smug and condescending and I
       apologise if I hurt your feelings however you need a reality
       check.
       [quote]9 Points + 2 incoming NIP's[/quote]
       You have had 3 convictions and another 2 instances of speeding
       in 16 months. Plus a speed awareness course somewhere in the
       last 3 years. At this rate, any special reasons argument you
       make seems academic as your ability to avoid these instances
       appear to be very difficult for you.
       Or to use the scenario I was arguing against being likely, 'So
       Mr Bluejay, you have had 5 instances of speeding in the last 16
       months yet here you are saying you need to keep your licence.
       Why should we let you when it just seems to be delaying the
       inevitable?'
       So what are you going to say that you have done to modify your
       driving and avoid future points? And why didn't you do it before
       when you were on 9 points?
       If you think I'm being condescending, you're going to hate the
       prosecution.
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