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#Post#: 91442--------------------------------------------------
PCN received but driver is adamant he was never there
DIR By: robbieuk
Date: September 25, 2025, 7:02 am
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Hi, I wonder if you could advise what my friend should do in
this situation.
Few days ago he received a PCN from Enfield Council stating that
he has failed to comply with prohibition of motor vehicles.
Evidence shows the vehicle passing through a restricted area.
However my friend is adamant that he has never been in that
area. He is adamant that on that day (evening) he was making
last preparations for holidays next day and there is no way he
was in the area.
What steps he should take now?
I have uploaded PCN on imgur -
HTML https://imgur.com/a/3Bjnn1o
We would really appreciate your thoughts as he is at complete
loss what to do. Contact DVLA? Police? I am clueless too
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Re: PCN received but driver is adamant he was never there
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: September 25, 2025, 7:08 am
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What are the PCN number and VRM as we can't look at the evidence
without these.
Is the vehicle leased as the PCN is out of time at 15 Sept,
contravention date 14 August.
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Re: PCN received but driver is adamant he was never there
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: September 25, 2025, 8:54 am
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+1
PCN from Enfield Council stating that he has failed to comply
with prohibition of motor vehicles.
Not 'he' but the vehicle.
So an obvious issue could be, as per stamfordman, that the
vehicle belongs to another party, perhaps leased/hired. This is
supported by the lateness of service.
So is the PCN actually addressed to your friend and are they the
keeper of the vehicle?
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Re: PCN received but driver is adamant he was never there
DIR By: robbieuk
Date: September 25, 2025, 10:01 am
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Thank you. So the car is Hire Purchased and the friend is
registered keeper (the pcn arrived on registered keeper name
too).
Vehicle registration is BL17NBJ and PCN number is EF99196898
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Re: PCN received but driver is adamant he was never there
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: September 25, 2025, 10:16 am
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Must be out of time then.
Here's the evidence.
HTML https://i.ibb.co/M5MmjPfX/Get-Video-ezgif-com-video-to-gif-converter.gif
HTML https://i.ibb.co/xS0CmgRT/en3.jpg
HTML https://i.ibb.co/hFysDP7W/en2.jpg
HTML https://i.ibb.co/TDt1QF2k/en1.jpg
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Re: PCN received but driver is adamant he was never there
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: September 25, 2025, 10:33 am
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A new logbook was issued only a few days ago on 15 Sept.
This vehicle is a black Ford first registered in June 2017 so
unlikely it is on hire purchase surely.
HTML https://i.ibb.co/xpt9fVz/Screenshot-2025-09-25-at-16-30-13.png
#Post#: 91568--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN received but driver is adamant he was never there
DIR By: robbieuk
Date: September 26, 2025, 1:51 am
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The purchase was on 8th August and finance organised via Oddle.
The financial statement's first page refers to it as Hire
Purchase. They will massively overpay for the car and something
they really regret now for going ahead as the purchase was
sudden (they suddenly decided to go to Europe family trip with a
car).
HTML https://imgur.com/a/KJEXSlN
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Re: PCN received but driver is adamant he was never there
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: September 26, 2025, 3:29 am
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So, this would explain part of the issue, but not all:
8 August: car was registered to A N Other;
8 August: car purchased from A N Other by your friend;
Contravention date: 14 August;
V5C not amended until: 15 September;
First PCN sent to A N Other who makes successful reps that they
were not the keeper by virtue of having sold the vehicle before
the contravention;
Fresh PCN issued to your friend, almost certainly in time.
Your friend was the owner prior to 14th, but they're adamant
'that on that day (evening) he was making last preparations for
holidays next day and there is no way he was in the area.'
So, who did have access to the car, was it even in your friend's
possession on 14th or perhaps lent to someone else/in a garage?
IMO, simply saying it wasn't him won't succeed because he admits
to being having bought the vehicle and therefore presumed to be
the keeper on 14th.
By the way, IMO paying £15000 for a car valued at £8600 is
usurious, but there we are.
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Re: PCN received but driver is adamant he was never there
DIR By: RichardW
Date: September 26, 2025, 3:50 am
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Doesn't appear to be a plate misread so either:
1. The car was there
2. It's a clone
For 1, as HCA says, friend needs to think carefully about what
he was doing and who else might have had use of the car. Google
timeline if he has an Android phone?
For 2, vid is low res, but the enhancement of the plate is
clear. Compare it to plate on the car - any differences?
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Re: PCN received but driver is adamant he was never there
DIR By: mickR
Date: September 26, 2025, 4:56 pm
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who ever it was driving wasn't hanging about were they !
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