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#Post#: 9718--------------------------------------------------
Re: WalthamForest, 34 - Being in a Bus Lane, High Road Leyton
(Bus Lane) E10
DIR By: DancingDad
Date: November 9, 2023, 5:07 pm
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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> The side road should have a warning sign.
>
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That's the problem, should not must.
Should in TSM means that a missing sign can be queried and TBH,
likely win if it were a case of driving a short way into a bus
lane.
Would likely win here had OP parked, looked at the sign and
left.
Could even win had OP parked and not seen the sign as it was
turned.
But parked in a bus lane, take a photo of the sign (which shows
they knew the time restrictions) and left the vehicle parked in
contravention.
I hope I am wrong but can see Mr Chan shaking his head
#Post#: 9722--------------------------------------------------
Re: WalthamForest, 34 - Being in a Bus Lane, High Road Leyton
(Bus Lane) E10
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: November 9, 2023, 5:29 pm
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+1
#Post#: 9801--------------------------------------------------
Re: WalthamForest, 34 - Being in a Bus Lane, High Road Leyton
(Bus Lane) E10
DIR By: S.M
Date: November 10, 2023, 3:01 pm
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--- Quote from: DancingDad link ---
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> [quote author=Hippocrates link=topic=817.msg9684#msg9684
date=1699554284]
> The side road should have a warning sign.
>
--- End Quote ---
That's the problem, should not must.
Should in TSM means that a missing sign can be queried and TBH,
likely win if it were a case of driving a short way into a bus
lane.
Would likely win here had OP parked, looked at the sign and
left.
Could even win had OP parked and not seen the sign as it was
turned.
But parked in a bus lane, take a photo of the sign (which shows
they knew the time restrictions) and left the vehicle parked in
contravention.
I hope I am wrong but can see Mr Chan shaking his head
[/quote]
[member=24]Hippocrates[/member] This is what I always thought, I
passed by today and there`s no way someone would actually see
that sign if they are turning left. The sign at the start of the
bus lane has slightly veered toward the driver now, it looks
like it moves based on how bad the weather is.
@Dancing dad - btw I was parked in a bay (picture attached) -
This is another conundrum - They have a parking bay in the bus
lane
HTML https://i.ibb.co/64wrLZY/IMG-20231110-130052.jpg
--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
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> OP, you have the absolute right in law to take them to the
adjudicators at London Tribunals, but as you can see there is
varying opinion on your chances. If the discount option has
gone, it is obviously a no-brainer to do so, but if it's still
available, you need to think carefully whether you should risk
the extra £65.
>
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For me it seems to be wrong to pay for a fine in this
circumstance i.e the council not maintaining the signage. Can I
pay the £65 and still appeal?
#Post#: 9804--------------------------------------------------
Re: WalthamForest, 34 - Being in a Bus Lane, High Road Leyton
(Bus Lane) E10
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: November 10, 2023, 3:09 pm
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Nope. If you pay, game over. Parking bays are allowed in bus
lanes.
#Post#: 9805--------------------------------------------------
Re: WalthamForest, 34 - Being in a Bus Lane, High Road Leyton
(Bus Lane) E10
DIR By: S.M
Date: November 10, 2023, 3:17 pm
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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> Nope. If you pay, game over. Parking bays are allowed in bus
lanes.
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At this point. I either pay £130 or don`t pay.
Btw what about the bus lane cameras not being approved etc that
i`ve seen on quite a few threads? Does this still apply?
#Post#: 9844--------------------------------------------------
Re: WalthamForest, 34 - Being in a Bus Lane, High Road Leyton
(Bus Lane) E10
DIR By: DancingDad
Date: November 11, 2023, 7:56 am
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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> Nope. If you pay, game over. Parking bays are allowed in bus
lanes.
>
--- End Quote ---
Yup
What isn't allowed is parking bays operating at same time as the
bus lane.
Here the times are complimentary, ie, no parking while bus lane
operative, can park when it is not.
You were in contravention of the single yellow line but they
cannot enforce that with CCTV.
Re cameral authorisation.
I've lost track but people like Hippo are up to speed on it.
Whether WF were or are still behind, I'm sure he can say.
#Post#: 10053--------------------------------------------------
Re: WalthamForest, 34 - Being in a Bus Lane, High Road Leyton
(Bus Lane) E10
DIR By: S.M
Date: November 13, 2023, 6:36 am
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--- Quote from: DancingDad link ---
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> [quote author=Hippocrates link=topic=817.msg9804#msg9804
date=1699650589]
> Nope. If you pay, game over. Parking bays are allowed in bus
lanes.
>
--- End Quote ---
Yup
What isn't allowed is parking bays operating at same time as the
bus lane.
Here the times are complimentary, ie, no parking while bus lane
operative, can park when it is not.
You were in contravention of the single yellow line but they
cannot enforce that with CCTV.
Re cameral authorisation.
I've lost track but people like Hippo are up to speed on it.
Whether WF were or are still behind, I'm sure he can say.
[/quote]
I am unable to tag him but bumping this so that he can see and
will try and message him.
#Post#: 10064--------------------------------------------------
Re: WalthamForest, 34 - Being in a Bus Lane, High Road Leyton
(Bus Lane) E10
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: November 13, 2023, 7:49 am
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I say wait for the Enforcement Notice and I am happy to take
this on and pay £65 if I lose at Chancery Lane.
BTW, they have updated camera certification; but, who knows how
this well develop?
#Post#: 10085--------------------------------------------------
Re: WalthamForest, 34 - Being in a Bus Lane, High Road Leyton
(Bus Lane) E10
DIR By: S.M
Date: November 13, 2023, 12:27 pm
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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> I say wait for the Enforcement Notice and I am happy to take
this on and pay £65 if I lose at Chancery Lane.
>
> BTW, they have updated camera certification; but, who knows
how this well develop?
>
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Sounds good :)
Ah ok and do you know if they have updated camera certification
all over the borough?
#Post#: 10262--------------------------------------------------
Re: WalthamForest, 34 - Being in a Bus Lane, High Road Leyton
(Bus Lane) E10
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: November 14, 2023, 6:16 pm
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--- Quote from: S.M link ---
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> Ah ok and do you know if they have updated camera
certification all over the borough?
>
--- End Quote ---
Whether they have it and whether they can prove it are different
matters, especially if the council officers are required to
attend.
For what it's worth, we've not lost a bus lane case since July
2021.
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