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#Post#: 103259--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bus Lane, under one minute past 16:00.
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: December 19, 2025, 2:51 pm
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A - The alleged Contravention did not occur
B I was not the owner of the vehicle at the time of
contravention
- I had sold the vehicle before that date
- I had bought the vehicle after that date
- I have never owned that vehicle
C - The vehicle was taken without my consent
D - We are a hire firm and have supplied details
E - The Penalty Charge exceeds the relevant amount
F - There has been a procedural impropriety by the Enforcement
Authority
G - The traffic order contravened is invalid
H - The Notice should not have been served because the Penalty
Charge had already been paid
I - Other
Additional Information
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Back later with full and frank formal representations. The
"grounds" in red are for the birds.
#Post#: 103272--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bus Lane, under one minute past 16:00.
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 19, 2025, 6:31 pm
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In my last post I sdvised taking the matter to London Tribunals,
but forgot to mention that with Havering demanding the full
penalty, it's about time they had to do some real work by the OP
registering an appeal at LT, when this mendacious letter can
also be presented. Nothing to lose.
#Post#: 103296--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bus Lane, under one minute past 16:00.
DIR By: JulianV
Date: December 20, 2025, 3:29 am
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I imagine I have to make a representation in response to the
Enforcement Notice before proceeding to the LT? In that case,
can you draft what I should write please? Thanks.
#Post#: 103543--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bus Lane, under one minute past 16:00.
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: December 22, 2025, 5:32 am
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Dear Havering
I require you to consider my initial challenge as formal
representations against the EN. In addition, the video does not
support the alleged contravention as there is no evidence of any
upright signage allegedly passed and the signage as seen is not
fit for purpose. Please cancel therefore.
Yours
#Post#: 103601--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bus Lane, under one minute past 16:00.
DIR By: JulianV
Date: December 22, 2025, 1:35 pm
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I know you guys are the experts but that seems very minimal?
#Post#: 103608--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bus Lane, under one minute past 16:00.
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: December 22, 2025, 2:34 pm
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--- Quote from: JulianV link ---
>
> I know you guys are the experts but that seems very minimal?
>
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Well, I have a 90% track record at the Tribunal, which would be
more if I had had a different adjudicator for some cases.
Further, I have a 100% track record for getting tickets
cancelled before going to the Tribunal.
I could pull that letter apart. There is also a procedural error
in the EN re the conflation of service and delivery.
Please enlighten me if you have anything further to add in
strategic terms. Did you notice the Act cited in the rejection?
The time for criticising constructively is at the Tribunal. I
have won every single bus lane case the last 4 years - and many
more before that over the last 13 years. And have achieved
costs. Two against this very council actually and both bus lane
cases.
I am prepared to stick in the point about the service/delivery
and leave it at that.
More is less. Less is more. Small is beautiful.
#Post#: 103627--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bus Lane, under one minute past 16:00.
DIR By: JulianV
Date: December 22, 2025, 4:23 pm
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Ok, understood.
Just to be super clear - On the Making Representations page, I
should tick the "There was no breach...." box and the enter the
text you suggested?
#Post#: 103643--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bus Lane, under one minute past 16:00.
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: December 23, 2025, 4:52 am
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Correct and screenshot the page first with all the wrong grounds
I have highlighted in red - BUT do not mention this
#Post#: 103688--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bus Lane, under one minute past 16:00.
DIR By: JulianV
Date: December 23, 2025, 12:21 pm
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Im a little confused...
The only way to make a representation appears to be in writing.
Do you want me to print something and send that with my written
representation?
#Post#: 103703--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bus Lane, under one minute past 16:00.
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: December 23, 2025, 3:44 pm
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--- Quote from: JulianV link ---
>
> Im a little confused...
>
> The only way to make a representation appears to be in
writing. Do you want me to print something and send that with my
written representation?
>
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Go on their website: www.havering.gov.uk/parking and click on
appeal link for moving traffic/bus lane, yellow box etc.
contraventions. Make a pdf and send. Keep a record of everything
please.
HTML https://www.havering.gov.uk/parking-2/parking-tickets-traffic-fines/2
HTML https://www.havering.gov.uk/parking-2/parking-tickets-traffic-fines/6
HTML https://www.havering.gov.uk/parking-2/parking-tickets-traffic-fines/2
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