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       Bus Lane, under one minute past 16:00.
   DIR By: JulianV
       Date: September 24, 2025, 6:33 am
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       My son has received a PCN.
       Having checked the video, he was in and out of the bus lane at
       around 16:00.50s.
       I have checked his clock on his car. It's an older vehicle that
       does not auto update the clock with GPS or anything similar. His
       time is 2 minutes out.
       Is this a defendable position?
       Thanks
       #Post#: 91255--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bus Lane, under one minute past 16:00.
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: September 24, 2025, 6:43 am
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       --- Quote from: JulianV link ---
       >
       > . . .
       > Is this a defendable position?
       >
       > Thanks
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Should be...
       As usual, for meaningful advice you will need to have a read of
  HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
       and post up here
       all sides of the PCN (only redact yr name & address - leave all
       else in),
       the video,
       any council photos,
       and
       a GSV link to the location.
       #Post#: 91311--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bus Lane, under one minute past 16:00.
   DIR By: JulianV
       Date: September 24, 2025, 10:04 am
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       Here is the PCN
  HTML https://i.imgur.com/JY4aLyu.jpeg
       GSV:
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/Vxs5YDJZLCGuLUmMA
       Video:
       [img]
  HTML https://i.imgur.com/S3W6VeH.mp4[/img]
       [img]
  HTML https://i.imgur.com/S3W6VeH.mp4[/img]
       #Post#: 91317--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bus Lane, under one minute past 16:00.
   DIR By: JulianV
       Date: September 24, 2025, 10:43 am
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  HTML [url=http://[img]
  HTML https://i.imgur.com/S3W6VeH.mp4
       #Post#: 91326--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bus Lane, under one minute past 16:00.
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: September 24, 2025, 10:59 am
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       OP, pl provide a GSV link to the applicable traffic sign
       advising of the restricted hours.
       Also, pl provide a GSV link to 'Balgores Rd' RM2!
       #Post#: 91327--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bus Lane, under one minute past 16:00.
   DIR By: Pastmybest
       Date: September 24, 2025, 11:00 am
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       There are various arguments but first we need the video
       #Post#: 91329--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bus Lane, under one minute past 16:00.
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: September 24, 2025, 11:09 am
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       --- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
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       > OP, pl provide a GSV link to the applicable traffic sign
       advising of the restricted hours.
       >
       > Also, pl provide a GSV link to 'Balgores Rd' RM2!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This, from the GSV link provided by the OP, appears to be the
       sign
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/kuJuiKndMtpX4MPx8
       Sorry, HCA, but I fail to see the Balgores Road connection??
       #Post#: 91336--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bus Lane, under one minute past 16:00.
   DIR By: JulianV
       Date: September 24, 2025, 11:57 am
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       Im struggling to embed the video.
       Hope this helps:
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/R66gdVK
       #Post#: 91341--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bus Lane, under one minute past 16:00.
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: September 24, 2025, 12:49 pm
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       The link helps :)
       Assuming his car is the one with the hazard lights on leaving
       the 'bus lane at 18:00:54 I'd say you have an excellent case for
       a de minimis appeal. Post a draft here for comment before
       sending.. There have been past adjudications which have said the
       car clock cannot vbe expected to be set ny the atomic clock.
       Is the car and V5C in your son's name?
       #Post#: 91348--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bus Lane, under one minute past 16:00.
   DIR By: JulianV
       Date: September 24, 2025, 1:26 pm
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       Assuming his car is the one with the hazard lights on leaving
       the 'bus lane at 18:00:54 I'd say you have an excellent case for
       a de minimis appeal. Post a draft here for comment before
       sending.. There have been past adjudications which have said the
       car clock cannot vbe expected to be set ny the atomic clock.
       That was my initial thoughts (de minimis and clock accuracy)
       Is the car and V5C in your son's name?
       Yes
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