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       57 in a 50 (M1, variable limit gantry) - but WHO was driving???
   DIR By: Feline_Foxy
       Date: September 22, 2025, 10:25 am
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       Got letter re 57mph on M1 (southbound J15-J14) under a 50mph
       variable gantry.
       Need to provide name of driver.
       My husband and I were collecting our son from university that
       day, and we took turns driving.
       We genuinely can't remember who was driving at that moment - and
       the supplied photos don't show faces.
       What should we do???
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       Re: 57 in a 50 (M1, variable limit gantry) - but WHO was
       driving???
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: September 22, 2025, 10:29 am
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       What would you do if you wanted to work out who was driving?
       What have you done so far to try to work out who was driving?
       #Post#: 90956--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 57 in a 50 (M1, variable limit gantry) - but WHO was
       driving???
   DIR By: Feline_Foxy
       Date: September 22, 2025, 10:40 am
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       We have discussed the drive in detail but just can't work out
       which one of us it would have been.  We stopped for MacDonalds
       at a service station about an hour afterwards but we can't
       remember which one of us was driving there vs afterwards.  Son
       can't remember either :-/
       #Post#: 90979--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 57 in a 50 (M1, variable limit gantry) - but WHO was
       driving???
   DIR By: JustLoveCars
       Date: September 22, 2025, 1:45 pm
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       If you do not know who was driving and cannot identify them
       after using reasonable diligence then you can take the matter to
       court and try and convince the bench you couldn't identify them.
       It will be a nice day out.  But if you cannot convince the bench
       then it will be 6 points along with a corresponding fine and
       surcharge.  The CPS may ask for over £600 in costs if you
       progress to contested trial.
       It's not easy, but can be done.
       #Post#: 90989--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 57 in a 50 (M1, variable limit gantry) - but WHO was
       driving???
   DIR By: mickR
       Date: September 22, 2025, 2:56 pm
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       --- Quote from: Feline_Foxy link ---
       >
       > We have discussed the drive in detail but just can't work out
       which one of us it would have been.  We stopped for MacDonalds
       at a service station about an hour afterwards but we can't
       remember which one of us was driving there vs afterwards.  Son
       can't remember either :-/
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       hmmm
       #Post#: 90996--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 57 in a 50 (M1, variable limit gantry) - but WHO was
       driving???
   DIR By: Southpaw82
       Date: September 22, 2025, 3:51 pm
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       Imagine that if you named the driver you would get £1 million.
       Any idea now?
       #Post#: 91101--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 57 in a 50 (M1, variable limit gantry) - but WHO was
       driving???
   DIR By: roythebus
       Date: September 23, 2025, 9:45 am
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       --- Quote from: Southpaw82 link ---
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       > Imagine that if you named the driver you would get £1 million.
       Any idea now?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Maybe the carrot of costing up to £1000, 6 points and dearer
       insurance for the next 5 years will help as the £1m may not be
       on offer.
       #Post#: 91211--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 57 in a 50 (M1, variable limit gantry) - but WHO was
       driving???
   DIR By: BertB
       Date: September 24, 2025, 3:25 am
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       Yeah, so apparently a memorable journey and you can remember
       stopping for a McDonalds an hour from the location but you would
       expect a court to consider that 3 adults cannot remember who was
       driving when you left your sons university digs?
       If you are testing out your story it is extremely weak and I
       would expect one of you to come away with 6 points and an
       endorsement code that will considerably increase insurance
       premiums for 5 years.
       #Post#: 91219--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 57 in a 50 (M1, variable limit gantry) - but WHO was
       driving???
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: September 24, 2025, 4:36 am
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       There have been one or two notable successes. Here's one:
  HTML https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/nov/28/northerner.heatherstewart
       But for every one of those, there are many more like this:
  HTML https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/4604985.speeding-driver-demands-justice/
       The pragmatic way to deal with this is to provide the details of
       the one of you most likely to have been driving. If you cannot
       establish who was driving from the photographs, nor can anybody
       else.
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