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Re: Council Kiosk User Interface Issues - do I have a hope in
hell?
DIR By: catnip
Date: November 9, 2025, 9:10 am
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It would be interesting to find out on what grounds the PCN was
cancelled.
#Post#: 97472--------------------------------------------------
Re: Council Kiosk User Interface Issues - do I have a hope in
hell?
DIR By: Grant Urismo
Date: November 9, 2025, 10:29 am
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Agreed. I'd be firing off a subject data access request for all
notes about the PCN if I was the OP.
#Post#: 97532--------------------------------------------------
Re: Council Kiosk User Interface Issues - do I have a hope in
hell?
DIR By: advicewelcome
Date: November 10, 2025, 5:41 am
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--- Quote from: catnip link ---
>
> It would be interesting to find out on what grounds the PCN
was cancelled.
>
--- End Quote ---
"I am writing to inform you that the Council has decided to
cancel the PCN. However, I must advise you
that the decision has been taken to cancel the above stated PCN
on different grounds and not on the
grounds you raised in your grounds of appeal."
...looks like they don't want to say - not really making sense
is it?
They suddenly found something else which makes then want to
cancel the PCN after they receiving my formal reps? They would
have noticed it if I had paid up and send my money back? (doubt
it).
Or the ground indicated were the reason they cancelled and they
don't want to give the impression it was?
In my appeal:
"Procedural Impropriety
The PCN fails to comply with several mandatory requirements of
the
Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions
(Representations and Appeals) (England) Regulations 2022,
including:
• Schedule 2(f): No statement that a Notice to Owner may be
served if the penalty is not paid.
• Regulation 3(1)(c): No information regarding the right to
make formal representations following an NtO.
• Ambiguity in the service date phrasing, which may mislead
recipients about statutory payment and appeal deadlines.
Under paragraph 4(4)(a) of Schedule 9 to the TMA 2004, these
omissions constitute procedural impropriety and render the PCN
invalid."
You reckon it was this bit? Are they worried the other tickets
have been incorrectly issued and could be claimed back?
#Post#: 97533--------------------------------------------------
Re: Council Kiosk User Interface Issues - do I have a hope in
hell?
DIR By: advicewelcome
Date: November 10, 2025, 5:49 am
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--- Quote from: Grant Urismo link ---
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> Agreed. I'd be firing off a subject data access request for
all notes about the PCN if I was the OP.
>
--- End Quote ---
what would that look like? What should it say? What's the
benefits in doing so?
Its a small minded council - I wonder if they might find some
ways of putting the screws on in some other ways if you get too
much of a profile with them.
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