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#Post#: 90639--------------------------------------------------
PCN Hammersmith and Fulham 34j Bus lane on Wandsworth Bridge
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DIR By: Kapaxian
Date: September 19, 2025, 7:36 am
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Hi there, first time posting, amazed to know this even exists.
Thank You!
Had a PCN for being on a bus lane at 18:59.21, 39 seconds before
the 7 pm restriction time.
I am aware of the restrictions. It is my commute route. I am on
it Monday to Friday since 2020, northbound in the morning and
southbound in the evening. I always check the time on the bike
clock. If the clock shows 19:00, I don't use the bus lane, just
in case, I could have been distracted, but it's not me when
riding.
Any grounds for appealing this, please? I mean, how do I know
the camera clock is correct or something?
Tx again.
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#Post#: 90648--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Hammersmith and Fulham 34j Bus lane on Wandsworth Bridge
road sthbound
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: September 19, 2025, 8:14 am
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I have very little time. But, does the video show the vehicle
passing any upright signs?
Plus your clock issue.
Plus a technical issue.
Be prepared: if you go all the way, they do not reoffer the
discount after the Enforcement Notice. But, I have beaten them
twice because they usually mess up and do not turn up which they
must in this legislation.
#Post#: 90657--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Hammersmith and Fulham 34j Bus lane on Wandsworth Bridge
road sthbound
DIR By: Kapaxian
Date: September 19, 2025, 8:46 am
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Thank you, Hippocrates.
No upright signs in sight in the video.
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HTML https://i.imgur.com/VZttBQi.mp4[/img]
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Re: PCN Hammersmith and Fulham 34j Bus lane on Wandsworth Bridge
road sthbound
DIR By: Kapaxian
Date: September 19, 2025, 8:47 am
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HTML https://imgur.com/VZttBQi
#Post#: 90702--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Hammersmith and Fulham 34j Bus lane on Wandsworth Bridge
road sthbound
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: September 19, 2025, 3:56 pm
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I'll do a draft tomorrow for you. And I will look at the video.
#Post#: 91465--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Hammersmith and Fulham 34j Bus lane on Wandsworth Bridge
road sthbound
DIR By: Kapaxian
Date: September 25, 2025, 8:44 am
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HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/iZHGndAgD99DpbYe6
I didn't realise the Google Maps link was missing...
#Post#: 91957--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Hammersmith and Fulham 34j Bus lane on Wandsworth Bridge
road sthbound
DIR By: Kapaxian
Date: September 29, 2025, 6:23 am
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Hi, sorry to bump this post, I just wanted to appeal by
tomorrow, so I don't miss the 14-day discount period, please.
#Post#: 91962--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Hammersmith and Fulham 34j Bus lane on Wandsworth Bridge
road sthbound
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: September 29, 2025, 6:35 am
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The LLA&TFL 2003 PCN is dated Tuesday 16th September. 14 days
beginning with the 16th Sep is today, Monday the 29th September.
So today is the last day of the discount window.
Get a representation delivered today then they will likely
re-offer the discount if they reject.
Post up a draft of what you think you should say.
#Post#: 92013--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Hammersmith and Fulham 34j Bus lane on Wandsworth Bridge
road sthbound
DIR By: Kapaxian
Date: September 29, 2025, 9:42 am
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Thank you, Enceladus, twice. I had this done over the weekend.
To: Traffic Enforcement Team
Subject: Representation Against PCN HZ94378859 –
Contravention 34J Being in a bus lane.
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am writing to formally challenge the above Penalty Charge
Notice (PCN), issued for alleged contravention 34J at Wandsworth
Bridge Road on 09.09.2025.
According to the PCN, the contravention occurred at 18:59:21,
which is 39 seconds before 19:00:00, the time at which the
restriction ceases. I respectfully submit that the camera or
system clock may have been out of sync with the official time.
Therefore, the alleged contravention may not have occurred
within the restricted period.
This route forms part of my daily commute. I am very familiar
with the times of the bus lane restrictions and take care to
comply with them. As part of my routine, I always check the time
on my bike’s clock before entering the lane to ensure that
it is outside the restricted period. On the date in question, my
bike clock indicated that the restriction had ended.
The Traffic Management Act 2004 and related regulations require
that enforcement equipment be properly calibrated and accurately
maintained. A discrepancy of even a few seconds can have a
material effect on whether a contravention actually occurred. In
this case, the PCN itself demonstrates that the alleged incident
was recorded only moments before the restriction ended.
I therefore request the following:
Evidence of the camera’s calibration and certification of
its time-stamp accuracy on the date of the alleged
contravention.
Confirmation of the council’s policy regarding any grace
period immediately before or after restrictions change.
Given the closeness of the time to the end of the restriction,
the possibility of a timing error, and the fact that I took
reasonable care to comply with the restrictions, I respectfully
ask that the PCN be reviewed and cancelled.
Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to
your response.
Yours faithfully,
Alex Gallis
Addres
Vehicle registration number LG70VLJ
#Post#: 92068--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Hammersmith and Fulham 34j Bus lane on Wandsworth Bridge
road sthbound
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: September 29, 2025, 1:35 pm
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I think you're on completely the wrong track here.
Their CCTV clocks are kept synchronised with an atomic clock,
and would not get approval without this. Your appeal reads that
your clock is 100% right and their's isn't which is highly
unlikely. Your bike's clock is much more likely to be incorrect.
A better approach is to point out the very small difference in
their and your clock times, and point out that almost all car
and motorbike clocks do not have sophisticated timing checks.
You could also say that if the council wish to rely on their
CCTV clock times to enforce a restriction, then they should have
the good grace to display a clock at each restriction, because
in the absence of their clock the motorist has only his own
clock to go on. You might also say that surely the council
should apply some commonsense.
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