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#Post#: 90733--------------------------------------------------
Re: London Borough of Bexley, stopped in a restricted area
outside of school, Victoria road (contravention code 48J)
DIR By: Vince138
Date: September 20, 2025, 7:15 am
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> [quote]
> thanks and apologies but still not sure what is the minor
design error here? e.g. what does '50mm' and '40mm' mean?
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Not wishing to overthink this because it may turn out to be
irrelevant. But before I answer this question, please confirm
the photo of the sign you posted was from Google Street View
(GSV). If so, it would be better to take your own photos of the
sign, one for context and one close-up, then post them here.
Sometimes GSV is out of date.
The upright sign in this case is critical for the contravention
to be made out. The road markings alone are not enough. Once I’m
sure what sign(s) were in place, I’ll give a more detailed
answer. In the meantime I suggest you follow HCA’s advice/text.
[/quote] sure, i just took the photos this morning. please do
let me know if any relevancy here?
HTML https://imgur.com/a/xr7ntKC
#Post#: 90811--------------------------------------------------
Re: London Borough of Bexley, stopped in a restricted area
outside of school, Victoria road (contravention code 48J)
DIR By: John_S
Date: September 21, 2025, 6:22 am
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I’m guessing this PCN was issued via an enforcement car not a
fixed CCTV camera, given the cardboard temporary ‘enforcement
camera’ sign beneath the ‘no stopping on entrance markings’
sign.
To simplify this I’ve posted an image of what the relevant sign
should look like. The sign actually in place doesn’t fully
comply with the regulations because the “Mon - Fri” is too big,
but IMO this is only a minor error. It probably won’t matter at
appeal stage.
In other words, take it that the signs and markings are
substantially complaint and forget this part of your argument.
Hope this makes sense.
HTML https://i.imgur.com/cYSYceB.jpeg
#Post#: 90823--------------------------------------------------
Re: London Borough of Bexley, stopped in a restricted area
outside of school, Victoria road (contravention code 48J)
DIR By: Vince138
Date: September 21, 2025, 7:45 am
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--- Quote from: John_S link ---
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> I’m guessing this PCN was issued via an enforcement car not a
fixed CCTV camera, given the cardboard temporary ‘enforcement
camera’ sign beneath the ‘no stopping on entrance markings’
sign.
>
> To simplify this I’ve posted an image of what the relevant
sign should look like. The sign actually in place doesn’t fully
comply with the regulations because the “Mon - Fri” is too big,
but IMO this is only a minor error. It probably won’t matter at
appeal stage.
>
> In other words, take it that the signs and markings are
substantially complaint and forget this part of your argument.
Hope this makes sense.
>
>
HTML https://i.imgur.com/cYSYceB.jpeg
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thanks! so i will ignore the potential error with the sign and
use HCA's draft for my representation to the council, correct?
#Post#: 90831--------------------------------------------------
Re: London Borough of Bexley, stopped in a restricted area
outside of school, Victoria road (contravention code 48J)
DIR By: John_S
Date: September 21, 2025, 9:00 am
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> use HCA's draft for my representation to the council, correct?
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Yes, correct...
#Post#: 94368--------------------------------------------------
Re: London Borough of Bexley, stopped in a restricted area
outside of school, Victoria road (contravention code 48J)
DIR By: Vince138
Date: October 16, 2025, 12:00 pm
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Bad news…my representation is rejected and the reason they gave
is “there is no exemption which allows boarding or alighting on
a school restriction. The markings are placed outside school
entrances to both highlight the school entrance to Road users,
and to indicate an area that should be kept clear of stationary
vehicles for the safety of the children and other pedestrians.
In order to drop off or collect passengers from school a safer
and more appropriate parking place should be found, before or
after the restricted area where your vehicle is not in
contravention of parking regulations, and where it would not
endanger others”
So in summary I believe they are saying that the centre point of
the Road opposite to the markings does not matter here.
Any other thoughts on what I should / can do next?
Thanks!🙏
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