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TFL: BLACKWELL and SILVERTOWN TUNNEL Non paymemt: PCN YJ8642801
DIR By: jethy
Date: September 18, 2025, 9:04 am
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Hello.
I used the Blakwell and Silvertown Tunnel on the way back from
Folkstone Eurotunnel and didn't pay the charge. It was a
genuine mistake as I haven't used the tunnel for at least 10, if
not more, and then is was free. The charges have only been in
place since April this year and I would have paid if I was
aware, I missed the signs (not a good excuse I know)
I have already sent a letter based on a thread I saw here, but
it has been rejected and the fine is £90, which is very high and
something I really cant afford right now so any help would be
greatly appreciated. I'll post all correspondence below.
Thanks in advance.
PCN and REPRESENTATION RESPONSE from TFL:
HTML https://ibb.co/prrnGnKN
MY RESPONSE TO PCN:
Dear Sir/Madam
I recently received a Penalty Charge Notice for using the
Blackwall or Silvertown Tunnel YJ8642801. This came as a
complete surprise, as I wasn’t aware the tunnels are now subject
to a charge. I didn't notice any signs on the day and would have
paid the fee had I realised it was required.
From what I’ve read, this is a new scheme and I understand there
may have been a period where warnings were issued instead of
fines. Unfortunately, I didn’t receive any such warning and this
was my first time using the tunnel since the new charge began.
I was returning from holiday and I normally use the Dartford
Crossing but on this occasion, there were traffic issues and I
was redirected to the Blackwall or Silvertown Tunnel.
I’m kindly asking if you’d consider cancelling the PCN on this
occasion. I am happy to pay the fee for using the tunnel, which
I would have done on the day if I had been aware this was
required.
Thanks for taking the time to read this. I’d really appreciate
your understanding.
Kind regards
#Post#: 91290--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL: BLACKWELL and SILVERTOWN TUNNEL Non paymemt: PCN
YJ8642801
DIR By: gainz
Date: September 24, 2025, 8:49 am
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My wife received same PCN. Didn't know it want free anymore. Any
advice?
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Re: TFL: BLACKWELL and SILVERTOWN TUNNEL Non paymemt: PCN
YJ8642801
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: September 24, 2025, 5:18 pm
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--- Quote from: gainz link ---
>
> My wife received same PCN. Didn't know it want free anymore.
Any advice?
>
--- End Quote ---
[member=6124]gainz[/member]
Please start your own thread for the best and most comprehensive
advice.
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Re: TFL: BLACKWELL and SILVERTOWN TUNNEL Non paymemt: PCN
YJ8642801
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: September 24, 2025, 5:28 pm
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--- Quote from: jethy link ---
>
> Hello.
>
> I used the Blakwell and Silvertown Tunnel on the way back from
Folkstone Eurotunnel and didn't pay the charge. It was a
genuine mistake as I haven't used the tunnel for at least 10, if
not more, and then is was free. The charges have only been in
place since April this year and I would have paid if I was
aware, I missed the signs (not a good excuse I know)
>
> I have already sent a letter based on a thread I saw here, but
it has been rejected and the fine is £90, which is very high and
something I really cant afford right now so any help would be
greatly appreciated. I'll post all correspondence below.
Thanks in advance.
>
> PCN and REPRESENTATION RESPONSE from TFL:
>
>
HTML https://ibb.co/prrnGnKN
>
> MY RESPONSE TO PCN:
>
> Dear Sir/Madam
>
> I recently received a Penalty Charge Notice for using the
Blackwall or Silvertown Tunnel YJ8642801. This came as a
complete surprise, as I wasn’t aware the tunnels are now subject
to a charge. I didn't notice any signs on the day and would have
paid the fee had I realised it was required.
>
> From what I’ve read, this is a new scheme and I understand
there may have been a period where warnings were issued instead
of fines. Unfortunately, I didn’t receive any such warning and
this was my first time using the tunnel since the new charge
began. I was returning from holiday and I normally use the
Dartford Crossing but on this occasion, there were traffic
issues and I was redirected to the Blackwall or Silvertown
Tunnel.
>
> I’m kindly asking if you’d consider cancelling the PCN on this
occasion. I am happy to pay the fee for using the tunnel, which
I would have done on the day if I had been aware this was
required.
>
> Thanks for taking the time to read this. I’d really appreciate
your understanding.
>
> Kind regards
>
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As I understand it, you've already submitted a formal
representation (challenge) and been rejected. In that case the
Notice of Rejection should include information on how to appeal
to the independent adjudicator.
Seems to me that TFL were initially lenient with first
offenders, especially with the Blackwall Tunnel which has
historically been free. Your PCN is for the Blackwall Tunnel.
Looks like leniency has gone. If you appeal then you'll be in
for the full penalty of £180 if you lose.
The contravention is black and white, either you drove through
the tunnel or you didn't. Since you did, I'm not sure if there's
any defence.
Please post up the Notice of Rejection so we can check for any
errors with it. Please only redact/obscure your name and
address.
#Post#: 91603--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL: BLACKWELL and SILVERTOWN TUNNEL Non paymemt: PCN
YJ8642801
DIR By: jethy
Date: September 26, 2025, 6:35 am
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Hello
Thanks for your reply.
The image link above includes the notice of rejection.
I have since set up an autopay account for the tunnel and I wish
i had included that in my Representation.
I had another look at the PCN and weirdly the TFL website has
allowed me to make representation again, which I have done and
it states the PCN is now on hold again? Must be an error. I
received a conformation email regarding this too?
Thanks
#Post#: 91610--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL: BLACKWELL and SILVERTOWN TUNNEL Non paymemt: PCN
YJ8642801
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: September 26, 2025, 7:06 am
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As I pointed out in another case these toll tunnels are not yet
listed on the government's list of toll roads/tunnels on A
roads.
HTML https://www.gov.uk/uk-toll-roads
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Re: TFL: BLACKWELL and SILVERTOWN TUNNEL Non paymemt: PCN
YJ8642801
DIR By: jethy
Date: September 26, 2025, 7:12 am
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Was that used in the representations? Or for the independent
review?
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Re: TFL: BLACKWELL and SILVERTOWN TUNNEL Non paymemt: PCN
YJ8642801
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: September 26, 2025, 8:11 am
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Re: TFL: BLACKWELL and SILVERTOWN TUNNEL Non paymemt: PCN
YJ8642801
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: September 26, 2025, 8:19 am
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Dartford Crossing is listed.
I can't see any reason why TFL's tunnel charges aren't listed.
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Re: TFL: BLACKWELL and SILVERTOWN TUNNEL Non paymemt: PCN
YJ8642801
DIR By: mama4
Date: December 12, 2025, 7:39 am
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What happened after you submitted reps again?
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