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#Post#: 90178--------------------------------------------------
Received a Single Justice Procedure Notice – Very Worried, Need
Advice
By: mrpopa Date: September 16, 2025, 7:31 am
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I recently received a Single Justice Procedure Notice (SJPN),
and I am really anxious because I’ve never been to court before
and I cannot afford to end up with 6 points on my licence.
Here’s my situation:
-The original offence was a speeding ticket (38mph in a 30mph
restricted road – automatic camera device).
-I then received a further charge for Failing to Give
Information Relating to the Identification of the Driver / Rider
of a Vehicle (Section 172, Road Traffic Act 1988).
The issue is:
-The NIP form I received was damaged and unusable, so I couldn’t
complete it by post.
-I tried to use the online portal, but there was a technical
fault on their end.
-West Midlands Police actually acknowledged the fault in their
reply, but they never offered me guidance or an alternative way
to respond.
-I first contacted them on 08/01/2025 and followed up several
times, asking for a replacement form or another way to fulfil my
duty. (The speeding penalty letter is dated 24/12/2024).
-Despite my repeated emails, I was never provided with help,
instructions, or a replacement form.
So I’ve entered a Not Guilty plea in relation to both charges —
the speeding offence (38mph in a 30mph zone) and the allegation
of failing to provide driver information. I explained that:
-I made every reasonable effort to comply.
-The only reason I couldn’t was because of a faulty system, a
damaged form, and lack of police guidance.
-I can provide the full email transcript history to prove my
repeated attempts.
-I am also willing to name the driver now, but I wanted to first
see the photographic evidence to make sure I gave the correct
information to the best of my knowledge.
-I am willing to provide the name of the driver involved in the
alleged offence, to the best of my knowledge, on the condition
that the related charge of failing to provide driver details is
withdrawn
My Concerns
I’m very worried about what happens next. I’ve never been
through court before, and I’m nervous about the whole process.
Questions for the Community
-What steps should I expect next in the process?
-Will this definitely go to a hearing, or could it be dealt with
before court?
-Is it possible that the “failure to provide driver information”
charge could be dropped if I can prove I tried to comply?
-Should I seek legal representation at this stage, or is it
something I can handle myself if I bring all the evidence?
-Has anyone been through something similar?
I really don’t want to end up with 6 points on my licence for
something that wasn’t my fault. Any guidance, experiences, or
advice would be hugely appreciated.
#Post#: 90180--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received a Single Justice Procedure Notice – Very Worried, N
eed Advice
By: Southpaw82 Date: September 16, 2025, 7:45 am
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You didn’t do your best to comply as you could have written to
the police providing the information - but what is done is done.
The most important question now is, were you driving?
#Post#: 90183--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received a Single Justice Procedure Notice – Very Worried, N
eed Advice
By: mrpopa Date: September 16, 2025, 7:51 am
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Thanks for your response. I understand what you’re saying — that
I could have just written a letter to the police with the
driver’s details. Looking back, maybe I should have tried that,
but at the time I thought the correct and only way was to use
the NIP form or the online portal. Since the form was damaged
and the portal wasn’t working (and they even admitted the
fault), I felt stuck and was waiting for proper guidance or a
replacement form.
To answer your main question: to the best of my knowledge, I
think I was the driver at the time. I just wanted to see the
photographic evidence first to be 100% certain before confirming
it, as some time had passed and I didn’t want to risk giving
inaccurate information.
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Re: Received a Single Justice Procedure Notice – Very Worried, N
eed Advice
By: Southpaw82 Date: September 16, 2025, 8:48 am
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The good news is that it’s entirely normal to “do a deal”
whereby you plead guilty to the speeding and the failure to
furnish is dropped.
#Post#: 90198--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received a Single Justice Procedure Notice – Very Worried, N
eed Advice
By: BertB Date: September 16, 2025, 8:49 am
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If you believe to the best of your knowledge you were driving,
the best and cheapest option is to stop worrying about
photographic evidence and offer to plead guilty to the speeding
charge if the FTF charge is dropped. Some SJs will accept this
if offered as part of the 'reasons for pleading not guilty', but
in other cases it will have to be done in court directly with
the prosecutor.
#Post#: 90482--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received a Single Justice Procedure Notice – Very Worried, N
eed Advice
By: mrpopa Date: September 18, 2025, 5:41 am
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Thank you for your response.
I have written the above post on behalf of my dad.
Is the process of going through court and doing a plea bargain
with the prosecutor a simple one?
The reason I ask is because English is not my dads first
language and he is not veru knowledgeable in what to do.
Of course I would have wanted to speak on behalf my dad in court
but I know this is not allowed.
Do you think it is worth hiring a solicitor to deal with this
case since my dad is a bit clueless when it comes to knowing
what to do? Or will it be a simple process where I can hopefully
talk to the prosecutor beforehand, show him evidence of the
multiple emails sent and my dad just has to plead guilty or not
guilty in court.
Again, I have never been to court so I am a bit clueless in
regards to the process so any advice is appreciated. All in all,
I just need to know whether it is worth getting a solcitior
because I do not want to risk being charged with both offences
and my dad to get 9 points on his licence.
#Post#: 90490--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received a Single Justice Procedure Notice – Very Worried, N
eed Advice
By: NewJudge Date: September 18, 2025, 6:49 am
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There is no risk of your father being convicted of both
offences. Unless he pleads guilty to it, the speeding charge
cannot succeed as there is no evidence that he was driving.
He should respond to he SJPN by pleading Not Guilty to both
charges.
In the “reasons for no guilty plea” section he should say “I am
willing to plead guilty to the charge of speeding provided, and
only provided, the “fail to provide driver’s details” charge is
dropped".
As above, some courts are dealing with this procedure under the
Single Justice procedure with no attendance being necessary.
Others will require an attendance in he normal Magistrates’
Court.
This “deal” is undertaken across he land every day and all court
users are familiar with it. If your father does have to attend,
you can go with him and try to see the prosecutor before he is
called into court. There is no need to involve a solicitor (and
I would imagine an interpreter would cost far less than a
solicitor anyway).
#Post#: 90500--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received a Single Justice Procedure Notice – Very Worried, N
eed Advice
By: mrpopa Date: September 18, 2025, 7:19 am
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Thank you very much for your response
[member=97]NewJudge[/member].
I have already responded to the SJPN and did exactly what you
mentioned in regards to not pleading guilty and the reason.
Unfortunately I have received a summons to a Magistrates' Court.
I will do as you have advised; try and talk to the porsecutor
beforehand and also get an interpreter.
Is there anything more you'd advise?
Once again, thank you for your response, it was very helpful.
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Re: Received a Single Justice Procedure Notice – Very Worried, N
eed Advice
By: ManxTom Date: September 18, 2025, 1:16 pm
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[quote author=mrpopa link=topic=8073.msg90500#msg90500
date=1758197970]
Thank you very much for your response
[member=97]NewJudge[/member].
I have already responded to the SJPN and did exactly what you
mentioned in regards to not pleading guilty and the reason.
Unfortunately I have received a summons to a Magistrates' Court.
I will do as you have advised; try and talk to the porsecutor
beforehand and also get an interpreter.
Is there anything more you'd advise?
Once again, thank you for your response, it was very helpful.
[/quote]
For absolute clarity, when you posted earlier that you[b] were
the driver, you actually meant [b][b]your father[/b] was the
driver. Yes?
It can get confusing when people post in the first person on
behalf of someone else
#Post#: 90576--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received a Single Justice Procedure Notice – Very Worried, N
eed Advice
By: mrpopa Date: September 19, 2025, 2:11 am
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Yes, I meant my father was the driver.
Apologies for the confusion.
Is there anything more you'd advise? @ManxTom
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