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#Post#: 90958--------------------------------------------------
Re: Richmond Council - PCN Contravention 06P - Parked without
valid pay & display ticket
DIR By: Johnsmith86
Date: September 22, 2025, 11:07 am
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I have come up with the following challenge and would appreciate
the forum's feedback/comments:
Dear Sirs,
I make representations on the following grounds:
1)
2)
contravention did not occur.
I stopped at the pharmacy in Sheen Road to buy medicine for my
son who had a high temperature (receipt attached), I saw the CEO
as I parked and he said its ok to stop but I should not take
longer than 5 mins. Unfortunately, the card machine in the
pharmacy was not working and I had to withdraw cash from an ATM
(cash withdrawal slip attached), this lead to me overstaying the
5 mins agreed with the CEO. When I returned to my car around 6
mins later, I was shocked to see a PCN had already been issued.
In this regard, I therefore parked without permission or having
obtained parking rights. On which point, I would like to draw
the council’s attention to the following:
The traffic sign in evidence states: Pay at machine. Display
ticket.
The machine accepts payment and advises that parking rights may
be obtained via RingGo, which is also confirmed on the council's
website.
Therefore, it is clear that the alleged contravention is that of
failing to display a ticket, NOT failure to pay.
It therefore follows that:
The traffic sign in evidence is incorrect because display of a
ticket is not an obligation; and
the contravention is wrong for the same reasons.
Either of the above constitutes a statutory and therefore the
PCN must be cancelled. Furthermore, if the council wishes to
enforce this bay, then it must amend the traffic sign and use a
mandated contravention description.
Kind regards,
#Post#: 90965--------------------------------------------------
Re: Richmond Council - PCN Contravention 06P - Parked without
valid pay & display ticket
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: September 22, 2025, 11:52 am
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Can we nail the issue of the pharmacy please.
Are you saying that the pharmacy was not accepting card payments
and required cash which you did not have. You therefore had to
leave, find an ATM and then return to the pharmacy, all of which
delayed you causing you to return.....
#Post#: 91026--------------------------------------------------
Re: Richmond Council - PCN Contravention 06P - Parked without
valid pay & display ticket
DIR By: Johnsmith86
Date: September 23, 2025, 3:28 am
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Yes that is correct.
#Post#: 91041--------------------------------------------------
Re: Richmond Council - PCN Contravention 06P - Parked without
valid pay & display ticket
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: September 23, 2025, 4:56 am
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In which case I'd reorder and rephrase your informal reps.
Surely you're trying to set out a compelling argument for the
authority to exercise discretion(could be 'circumstances beyond
your control...but I'm not going to get too exercised about the
distinction), therefore perhaps....
On *** my son, aged **, developed a temperature and therefore I
went to the (surely local, although you've said that you're not
a resident of Richmond) pharmacy to buy some ***** (IMO,
medicine is too vague). I parked as can be seen and saw the CEO
to whom I explained the situation and who KINDLY! allowed me to
park for 5 minutes without paying.
As luck would have it, **** pharmacy could not accept card
payments and therefore as I did not have cash on me I had to go
to the nearest ATM and then return to the pharmacy. This detour
caused me to be late getting back to my car where I found the
PCN, perhaps understandably.
Given the circumstances, I would ask the authority to exercise
discretion on this occasion. I would also suggest that the
actual wording of the contravention cannot be correct in that
the parking place accepts phone payment and therefore not
displaying something whose display is optional cannot be
correct, surely. Likewise the sign doesn't reflect the option to
pay by phone, but I hope that it won't be necessary to examine
these issues in further detail in this case.
Some thoughts. Pl fill in the blanks and post a draft here
first.
#Post#: 91414--------------------------------------------------
Re: Richmond Council - PCN Contravention 06P - Parked without
valid pay & display ticket
DIR By: Johnsmith86
Date: September 25, 2025, 5:26 am
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On 15/09/2025 my son, aged 6 yrs old, developed a high
temperature and therefore I went to the Richmond Pharmacy on
Sheen Road to buy some Calpol medicine for him. I parked on
Sheen Road, as can be seen, and saw the CEO to whom I explained
the situation and who kindly allowed me to park for 5 minutes
without paying for parking.
As luck would have it, Richmond Pharmacy could not accept card
payments and therefore as I did not have cash on me I had to go
to the nearest ATM at the garage on Sheen Road and then return
to the pharmacy. This de-tour caused me to be late getting back
to my car where I found the PCN has been issued, perhaps
understandably.
Given the circumstances, I kindly ask the authority to exercise
discretion on this occasion. I would also like to suggest that
the actual wording of the contravention cannot be correct in
that the parking bay accepts phone payments as well as machine
payments and therefore not displaying something (i.e.
ticket/voucher) whose display is optional cannot be correct,
surely. Likewise the parking sign doesn't reflect the option to
pay by phone, but I hope that it won't be necessary to examine
these issues in further detail in this case.
#Post#: 96059--------------------------------------------------
Re: Richmond Council - PCN Contravention 06P - Parked without
valid pay & display ticket
DIR By: Johnsmith86
Date: October 29, 2025, 9:55 am
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
> In which case I'd reorder and rephrase your informal reps.
>
> Surely you're trying to set out a compelling argument for the
authority to exercise discretion(could be 'circumstances beyond
your control...but I'm not going to get too exercised about the
distinction), therefore perhaps....
>
> On *** my son, aged **, developed a temperature and therefore
I went to the (surely local, although you've said that you're
not a resident of Richmond) pharmacy to buy some ***** (IMO,
medicine is too vague). I parked as can be seen and saw the CEO
to whom I explained the situation and who KINDLY! allowed me to
park for 5 minutes without paying.
>
> As luck would have it, **** pharmacy could not accept card
payments and therefore as I did not have cash on me I had to go
to the nearest ATM and then return to the pharmacy. This detour
caused me to be late getting back to my car where I found the
PCN, perhaps understandably.
>
> Given the circumstances, I would ask the authority to exercise
discretion on this occasion. I would also suggest that the
actual wording of the contravention cannot be correct in that
the parking place accepts phone payment and therefore not
displaying something whose display is optional cannot be
correct, surely. Likewise the sign doesn't reflect the option to
pay by phone, but I hope that it won't be necessary to examine
these issues in further detail in this case.
>
> Some thoughts. Pl fill in the blanks and post a draft here
first.
>
--- End Quote ---
Hello,
Unfortunately the council did not show any compassion and have
rejected my appeal. Is this now worth waiting for the NTO to
arrive and then make formal representations?
Appreciate your guidance
Many thanks,
#Post#: 99589--------------------------------------------------
Re: Richmond Council - PCN Contravention 06P - Parked without
valid pay & display ticket
DIR By: Johnsmith86
Date: November 24, 2025, 11:03 am
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Any feedback from the forum regarding next steps?
Thanks,
#Post#: 99593--------------------------------------------------
Re: Richmond Council - PCN Contravention 06P - Parked without
valid pay & display ticket
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: November 24, 2025, 11:21 am
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--- Quote from: Johnsmith86 link ---
>
> Any feedback from the forum regarding next steps?
> Thanks,
>
--- End Quote ---
Please to post a copy of what you wrote and an image (not
transcript) of the Council's rejection letter (only redact yr
name & address from the latter - leave all else in).
#Post#: 126395--------------------------------------------------
Re: Richmond Council - PCN Contravention 06P - Parked without
valid pay & display ticket
DIR By: Johnsmith86
Date: July 31, 2026, 8:22 am
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Tribunal hearing today. fingers crossed!
#Post#: 126417--------------------------------------------------
Re: Richmond Council - PCN Contravention 06P - Parked without
valid pay & display ticket
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 31, 2026, 12:52 pm
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Any reason for your total silence since your last post in Nov
2025 ? You never posted the requested documents so that advice
could have been given before your tribunal date.
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