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       #Post#: 91900--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Possibly can't appeal but will try Camden 
   DIR By: Maz
       Date: September 28, 2025, 11:49 pm
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       Reference ID
       : 109964743
       Issuing Agency
       : London Borough of Camden
       Citation Number
       : CU71959913
       Citation Issue Date/Time
       : 28/08/2025 @ 18:31
       Location Of Offense
       : TOTTENHAM COURT ROAD
       W1 BY JUNCTION WITH
       UNIVERSITY STREET
       Plate Number
       KW72JTY
       Citation Amount Due
       £80.00
       Admin Fee Due
       £35.00
       Violation Type
       : MOVING
       #Post#: 91908--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Possibly can't appeal but will try Camden 
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: September 29, 2025, 3:22 am
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       The letters you have posted show that you hired a car from
       Enterprise, then two PCNs were sent to them during your hire
       period for moving traffic offences which they then paid. They
       are now collecting the money from you. You need to look at their
       conditions of hire, because at the moment, you have no standing
       in the matter because under the decriminalised legislation for
       parking and traffic offences, the owner of the vehicle has
       responsibility for PCNs incl paying or appealing.
       #Post#: 92777--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Possibly can't appeal but will try Camden 
   DIR By: Maz
       Date: October 4, 2025, 5:48 am
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       Thanks for that, but I was looking for advice to appeal. The
       guidance on here says to not contact the council first, I wanted
       to know what the charge for moving was and then see if I can
       challenge it
       #Post#: 92778--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Possibly can't appeal but will try Camden 
   DIR By: Maz
       Date: October 4, 2025, 5:50 am
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       Shall I just email Camden to know what the offence was and then
       challenge
       #Post#: 92781--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Possibly can't appeal but will try Camden 
   DIR By: Maz
       Date: October 4, 2025, 6:04 am
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       Completely forgot you can check this online.
       I guess I need to appeal to see the video
       Date28/08/2025 18:31PCN NumberCU71959913Vehicle
       RegistrationKW72JTYStreetTOTTENHAM COURT ROAD W1 By Junction
       With University StreetContravention TypeUsing A Route Restricted
       To Certain Vehicles -buses And CyclesContravention
       Code33HContraventionUsing a route restricted to certain vehicles
       local buses and cycles only
       #Post#: 92782--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Possibly can't appeal but will try Camden 
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: October 4, 2025, 6:13 am
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       --- Quote ---
       > Thanks for that, but I was looking for advice to appeal. The
       guidance on here says to not contact the council first, I wanted
       to know what the charge for moving was and then see if I can
       challenge it
       --- End Quote ---
       --- Quote from: Maz link ---
       >
       > Shall I just email Camden to know what the offence was and
       then challenge
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I am not sure you have fully understood the significance of what
       Incandescent was saying.
       If Enterprise (or anyone else for that matter) has paid the
       Penalties, then as far as Camden are concerned the case is
       closed (payment is seen as an issue of liability) and Camden
       have no furthjer interst in the matter..
       Your beef is now with Enterprise - what does the 'small print'
       in your hire agreement with them say abour fines and penalties?
       --- Quote ---
       > Strange I can't attach anything now.
       --- End Quote ---
       As Imgur is no longer available in the UK, you will need to use
       ibb.co
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       EDIT:
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       > Completely forgot you can check this online.
       --- End Quote ---
       When you checked online do the PCNs show as paid?
       #Post#: 92788--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Possibly can't appeal but will try Camden 
   DIR By: Maz
       Date: October 4, 2025, 7:03 am
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       Sorry brain not working I forgot you can see videos etc. I can't
       post the or picture as imugur isn't working. It looks like this
       has been appealed a few times and the area is restricted to
       vehicles during a certain time. But there is no forewarning, and
       no markings on the road. The sign is so high above a stretlamp
       there is no way I would have seen it.ive used some wording from
       similar posts and added my own bits there. Is this enough, I'm
       scared to drive there now it's near my son's university still
       can't see restrictions when I'm driving.
       #Post#: 92791--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Possibly can't appeal but will try Camden 
   DIR By: Maz
       Date: October 4, 2025, 7:06 am
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       Ah I see I did misunderstand that. I have had fines reversed
       when it had been paid by enterprise already and had my admin fee
       refunded. Enterprises Stance is that I'm liable for all fines
       and I would have to take it up with Camden
       #Post#: 92793--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Possibly can't appeal but will try Camden 
   DIR By: Maz
       Date: October 4, 2025, 7:07 am
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       Yes the PCN have been paid
       #Post#: 92794--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Possibly can't appeal but will try Camden 
   DIR By: Maz
       Date: October 4, 2025, 7:09 am
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