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#Post#: 94370--------------------------------------------------
Re: Alleged 40mph in a 20 + Wheelies and Weaving
DIR By: tyronejiggles
Date: October 16, 2025, 12:08 pm
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[member=4]Southpaw82[/member]
because I haven’t paid for representation at trial yet, only for
a consultation with Freeman. I am looking to see what my options
are. As it stands, I plan to write to Met prosecutions and ask
for charges to be dropped given all the procedural holes. If
that fails, I plan on offering to plead guilty on careless if
they drop speeding. Then hiring representation for mitigation.
But I am financially limited so wanted to see if this was a
sound strategy before committing to it.
#Post#: 94487--------------------------------------------------
Re: Alleged wheelies and 40 in a 20 (Mr Loophole thinks I have a
strong case) - Careless Driving and Speeding
DIR By: ManxTom
Date: October 17, 2025, 8:47 am
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> ... My girlfriend was on the back of my motorcycle which would
obviously be a major aggravating factor...
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Er....
This seems to be the first time that you mentioned your
girlfriend was on the bike...
[Edit for spelling...]
#Post#: 94554--------------------------------------------------
Re: Alleged 40mph in a 20 + Wheelies and Weaving
DIR By: mickR
Date: October 17, 2025, 4:39 pm
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if you were pulling wheelies with your girlfriend on the back i
would have thought the verbal exchange with the Plod would have
included mention of how dangerous that would be, maybe
attracting a DD charge ???
#Post#: 94569--------------------------------------------------
Re: Alleged 40mph in a 20 + Wheelies and Weaving
DIR By: Dave Green
Date: October 17, 2025, 7:40 pm
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There's one thing that doesn't make any sense to me.
You have continually denied committing the offences yet you have
stated:
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> I've since upgraded my license from A2 to A around 2 months
ago in order to improve my skills and awareness as a result of
this offence
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Why would you feel the need to improve both your riding skill
and awareness "as a result of this offence" if you are so sure
that you didn't commit the offences?
#Post#: 94607--------------------------------------------------
Re: Alleged 40mph in a 20 + Wheelies and Weaving
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: October 18, 2025, 7:53 am
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I'm not sure the OP has continually denied committing the
offence...
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> The reality may be more that I am trying to see what they can
prove. Would that be an unadvisable approach?
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#Post#: 94614--------------------------------------------------
Re: Alleged 40mph in a 20 + Wheelies and Weaving
DIR By: Dave Green
Date: October 18, 2025, 8:13 am
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> I'm not sure the OP has continually denied committing the
offence...
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--- Quote from: tyronejiggles link ---
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> I do not believe I was speeding and definitely not pulling any
wheelies and contest all allegations
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It's in bold as that's how the OP wrote it.
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> [member=97]NewJudge[/member]
> Unsure, but definitely not 40mph.
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> Contesting the "Without Due Care" Charge:
> I deny the allegations. I will be pleading not guilty on the
basis that I was not riding in the manner described (no wheelies
or dangerous weaving).
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#Post#: 95426--------------------------------------------------
Re: Alleged 40mph in a 20 + Wheelies and Weaving
DIR By: Mayhem007
Date: October 24, 2025, 11:10 am
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If you have pleaded not guilty to the alleged offences, you are
entitled to disclosures of the evidence, which incorporates any
statements and video evidence. Video evidence will corroberate
the police officers evidence. Whilst there is no mention of a
second police officer, however if there was two officers then
each officer can corroberate the other officers evidence.
What ever device they use, this needs to be corroberated by the
police officers evidence.
Police officers are highly trained, competent and experienced in
such matters.
There is no second guessing what the police officer saw or did
not see, your defence will be extremely flimsy. You have to look
at what you did or not do at the time. If there is good
possibility that you did at some point commit the allegations,
then you must consider changing your plea to guilty. Also,
consider if you had been riding longer than the 2 year probation
period, would you still be wandering down the path of pleading
not guilty.
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