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UKCPM / CPM - No Parking/No stopping
DIR By: shadowliner
Date: September 10, 2025, 4:19 pm
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"PCN" -
HTML https://imgur.com/a/SOZlDg4
Driver unknown as it is a shared company vehicle.
I'm leaning to saying that it isn't PoFa compliant due to no
parking period defined, even though they try with "The period of
parking to which this notice relates is the period immediately
preceding the incident time stated above"?
#Post#: 89445--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKCPM / CPM - No Parking/No stopping
DIR By: jfollows
Date: September 11, 2025, 1:20 am
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I agree.
The period of parking has to specify a period long enough to
allow the driver to read the “clearly displayed throughout the
area” signs and to enter into a contract by parking. A single
point in time does not do this. Nor does saying that a single
point in time is a “period”!
As with
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/cpm-portal-way-acton/msg89318/#msg89318<br
/>yesterday,
--- Quote ---
> I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking
charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I
will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your
client landowner.
>
> As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL
the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper
of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even
substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no
admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions
can be drawn. CPM has relied on contract law allegations of
breach against the driver only.
>
> The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have
been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation
of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable.
CPM have no hope should you be so stupid as to try and litigate,
so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and
cancel the PCN.
--- End Quote ---
CPM will reject the appeal, perhaps because some people seem to
have picked up on it and use it as a generic appeal even when
PoFA is complied with, then it will cost them £23 I think when
you go to the IAS and explain why it’s not compliant, the IAS
will probably reject the appeal anyway but in the end it won’t
get to court.
#Post#: 89487--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKCPM / CPM - No Parking/No stopping
DIR By: b789
Date: September 11, 2025, 6:42 am
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You can even give them a bit more reason in your appeal:
--- Quote ---
> Subject: Appeal – PCN [reference], VRM [reg], Portal Way,
London (Park Royal), incident 04/09/2025
>
> I am the registered keeper. Liability is denied.
>
> Failure to comply with PoFA 2012 Sch 4 para 9(2)(a): your NtK
does not “specify the period of parking”. Saying “the period
immediately preceding the event time” is not a period. As
confirmed in Brennan v Premier Parking Solutions (2023), at
least a short period of parking must be specified; a single
timestamp or vague wording is insufficient to show that the
vehicle was parked at all.
>
> No contract or breach is evidenced. Your own wording and
images show signage stating “No Parking / No Stopping”, which is
prohibitive and incapable of forming any contractual offer. In
any event, there is no evidence that the vehicle remained longer
than the minimum consideration period for the driver to read the
terms before leaving (see PPSCoP section 5.1). Absent proof of a
period of parking beyond consideration, no contract could have
been formed and no breach can be established. No admission is
made as to the identity of the driver.
>
> Cancel the charge and erase my data. If you reject, I will
appeal to the IAS—even if only to impose the fee you incur
unless you concede—and I invite you to try and litigate against
the Keeper if you insist.
>
> Yours faithfully,
>
> [Name]
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#Post#: 93485--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKCPM / CPM - No Parking/No stopping
DIR By: shadowliner
Date: October 9, 2025, 8:33 am
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Funnily enough, I had another company vehicle get an identical
"PCN" at the same location a few days later.
I sent the same appeal for both "PCN"s.
One appeal was rejected, one was accepted.
The reply to the accepted appeal;
--- Quote ---
> We write to acknowledge receipt of your recent online appeal
against the issuing of a Parking Charge Notice (PCN) to your
vehicle.
>
> Please be advised that on this occasion your appeal has been
upheld and the above PCN has now been cancelled. We have now
removed your details from this PCN.
--- End Quote ---
Quickly sent the rejected one to IAS to make sure CPM pay their
fee.
#Post#: 93669--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKCPM / CPM - No Parking/No stopping
DIR By: shadowliner
Date: October 11, 2025, 5:56 am
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"Thank you for your appeal. Due to further information UK Car
Park Management Ltd has confirmed they will no longer be
pursuing the matter and the parking charge has been cancelled."
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