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#Post#: 89354--------------------------------------------------
Islington, 25JM Failing to comply with prohibition (...), St
Peter's Street
DIR By: torte
Date: September 10, 2025, 9:49 am
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Outline of the case:
Received the PCN today. The photographed car is not our car. My
partner and I were at home at the time with our car in the
driveway. Our "Google Maps Timeline" shows us both at home. Our
insurance fitted monitoring device shows no trips on the day of
the alleged offense. Our dashcam made no recording on that day.
The photographed car looks very similar to ours. The colour and
the vehicle registration number match. From the provided
photographs it's hard to tell whether the photographed car is
the same model as ours, it may well be. The only difference I
spotted with certainty: the photographed car has no P plate, our
car has magnetic P plates (documented on many photos and Google
maps).
How you might help:
Please advise how I should respond to the PCN.
PCN here:
HTML https://imgur.com/a/hfB7t1Y
#Post#: 89364--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington, 25JM Failing to comply with prohibition (...), St
Peter's Street
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: September 10, 2025, 10:16 am
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Looks like you have another two coming your way.
Start by making a list of the differences you can see between
your car and the one they've captured and the other evidence you
have of where your car was.
HTML https://i.ibb.co/8LtMSFXp/Screenshot-2025-09-10-at-16-08-54.png
HTML https://i.ibb.co/0jhLjcmK/Screenshot-2025-09-10-at-16-11-42.png
HTML https://i.ibb.co/zWVs22Qd/Screenshot-2025-09-10-at-16-11-26.png
HTML https://i.ibb.co/GXjJD97/Screenshot-2025-09-10-at-16-11-17.png
HTML https://i.ibb.co/nsc4GKYb/London-Boroughof-Islington-PCNEvidence-ezgif-com-video-to-gif-converter.gif
#Post#: 89373--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington, 25JM Failing to comply with prohibition (...), St
Peter's Street
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: September 10, 2025, 10:47 am
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I'll have a look at the other two in a bit to see if the
evidence is better.
I think you'l need a police log for this.
EDIT - Prebend St is useless as dark but Colebrooke Row looks
promising with also a close up of plate - can you see any
differences in the plate or car?
HTML https://i.ibb.co/1fT6JHXf/Screenshot-2025-09-10-at-16-51-54.png
HTML https://i.ibb.co/TDRmPFfH/Screenshot-2025-09-10-at-16-51-16.png
HTML https://i.ibb.co/qLhTSKQF/Screenshot-2025-09-10-at-16-51-07.png
#Post#: 89379--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington, 25JM Failing to comply with prohibition (...), St
Peter's Street
DIR By: torte
Date: September 10, 2025, 11:02 am
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Thanks, this is great footage. Where did you find this?
Here is a photo of our car rear:
HTML https://imgur.com/a/CfsaM3a
Differences to the photo posted by you: EU stars on blue ground
on left side of the rear license plate are missing; "Hybrid
technology" logo missing next to "Auris" text.
Feels like one of those "spot the difference" challenges I did
as a kid. I was not very good at them.
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Re: Islington, 25JM Failing to comply with prohibition (...), St
Peter's Street
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: September 10, 2025, 11:06 am
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Here's the video - also shows side view.
HTML https://i.ibb.co/1fhN6Bb0/London-Boroughof-Islington-PCNEvidence-ezgif-com-video-to-gif-converter-1.gif
You can click through and pause this:
HTML https://imgur.com/LXZ0QfK
#Post#: 89382--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington, 25JM Failing to comply with prohibition (...), St
Peter's Street
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: September 10, 2025, 11:07 am
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As you can see, Stamf is doing sterling work.
As he says, you need to report it to your local police and get a
crime number - the police can also put a mark against your
reg.mark so that the car can be stopped and checked - so expect
ANPR checks if they do.. Are you in London or elsewhere?
Also please post photos of your numberplate and car from the
same sort of angles as the clearer ones Stamf has unearthed -
members here seem to enjoy playing 'Spot the Difference'.
You might also check TfL for any outstanding PCNs against you
reg.
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EDIT: post crossed with your latest.
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Re: Islington, 25JM Failing to comply with prohibition (...), St
Peter's Street
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: September 10, 2025, 11:24 am
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You have good evidence now and you can even challenge the others
without waiting for the paper PCNs.
I suspect there may be more coming.
HTML https://i.imgur.com/yI5vgrI.jpeg
#Post#: 89392--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington, 25JM Failing to comply with prohibition (...), St
Peter's Street
DIR By: torte
Date: September 10, 2025, 11:32 am
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Thank you very much for your advice and the footage.
For "Spot the Difference" enthusiasts, here are additional
photos of our vehicle:
HTML https://imgur.com/a/ZDawkZn
I'll go ahead and report to my local police, get a crime number,
and then check "I never was the owner of the vehicle in
question" and explain why the photographed car is not our car,
despite the same license plate number.
I'll see if I can figure out how to challenge the PCNs that
haven't arrived by letter yet based on the PCN numbers posted by
you.
#Post#: 89393--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington, 25JM Failing to comply with prohibition (...), St
Peter's Street
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: September 10, 2025, 11:41 am
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--- Quote from: torte link ---
>
> I'll see if I can figure out how to challenge the PCNs that
haven't arrived by letter yet based on the PCN numbers posted by
you.
>
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You just log into Islington's view PCN page with the PCN number
as per the list plus the VRM.
There's no rush - wait for others to comment and see if anything
comes in the post apart from the two other Islington PCNs. It's
easier when they are all one council/authority.
#Post#: 89711--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington, 25JM Failing to comply with prohibition (...), St
Peter's Street
DIR By: torte
Date: September 12, 2025, 2:31 pm
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It's proving difficult to obtain a Crime Reference Number. As
the Met police suggests, I reported the cloned number plate
online
HTML https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/rs/road-safety/automatic-number-plate-recognition-anpr/.<br
/>On the website I was advised I would get a crime reference
number after 24 hours. In an automated submission confirmation
email I was advised I would get a crime reference number after
48 hours. Both has passed and I have not received a crime
reference number. I will wait until Monday and then send a
complaint to the police.
I found Islington's view PCN page and found the option to
challenge PCNs. I have not done that yet, because I believe I
should wait for a crime reference number before doing this.
John U.K. advised to "check TfL for any outstanding PCNs against
you reg". I found no way to do this.
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