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       #Post#: 8983--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
   DIR By: taffer87
       Date: November 2, 2023, 2:34 am
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       thanks - so assuming no further comments will send today
       re tribunal i guess they will not really accept the above and
       think it’s mitigation so will need to rely on council messing
       something on transfer of liability or other procedures?
       #Post#: 9151--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: November 4, 2023, 8:49 am
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       --- Quote from: taffer87 link ---
       >
       > thanks - so assuming no further comments will send today
       >
       > re tribunal i guess they will not really accept the above and
       think it’s mitigation so will need to rely on council messing
       something on transfer of liability or other procedures?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm not sure it is mitigation, one could say that if the council
       provides a payment system, it's up to them to ensure it works as
       expected and without errors.
       #Post#: 9155--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
   DIR By: Pastmybest
       Date: November 4, 2023, 9:06 am
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       --- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
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       > [quote author=taffer87 link=topic=799.msg8983#msg8983
       date=1698910446]
       > thanks - so assuming no further comments will send today
       >
       > re tribunal i guess they will not really accept the above and
       think it’s mitigation so will need to rely on council messing
       something on transfer of liability or other procedures?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm not sure it is mitigation, one could say that if the council
       provides a payment system, it's up to them to ensure it works as
       expected and without errors.
       [/quote]
       +1 the risk of connection problems should have been assessed and
       mitigated for
       #Post#: 9178--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
   DIR By: taffer87
       Date: November 4, 2023, 11:39 am
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       Thanks, submitted the reps on 2 November.
       Will update when I hear back.
       I guess I was thinking the council will say there were no
       technical faults etc but hopefully, there is enough evidence to
       support otherwise.
       #Post#: 9222--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: November 4, 2023, 4:24 pm
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       --- Quote from: taffer87 link ---
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       > I guess I was thinking the council will say there were no
       technical faults etc...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Of course, and back in the day the thief-takers
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       also maintained that
       they only ever caught the guilty...
       #Post#: 9870--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
   DIR By: taffer87
       Date: November 11, 2023, 3:50 pm
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       looks like they have rejected my reps - amount going to increase
       to £195 as per their website on 28 Nov- I haven't received
       anything so far though - presume will get something in the post
       next week
       shouldn't they say the amount will increase to £130? rather than
       £195? given I only did informal reps within 14 days and next
       step will be a NTO - not sure why amount will increase to £195
       on 28 November
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       #Post#: 9887--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
   DIR By: Pastmybest
       Date: November 12, 2023, 5:09 am
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       documents are needed not screen shots and dates be precise so we
       can help you
       #Post#: 9891--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
   DIR By: taffer87
       Date: November 12, 2023, 5:27 am
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       --- Quote from: Pastmybest link ---
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       > documents are needed not screen shots and dates be precise so
       we can help you
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thank you, will definitely post as soon as I have any document.
       Nothing received yet - they posted on 10 November as per the
       website screenshot so assume I will get it mid next week
       Nothing in spam/inbox so looks like they have sent by snail mail
       rather than email
       #Post#: 9892--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: November 12, 2023, 5:36 am
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       If you can get, the PCN log off their website, because that
       should show you when/if a Notice to Owner has been sent out.
       Matters don't progress to a Charge Certificate unless they have
       produced and sent out the NtO. HOwever, so many councils are
       totally incompetent and stupid, I suppose it is possible they
       missed this stage out.  I think there was one London council
       that had a contractor print and mail-out their postal documents
       and failed to do so. Date of NtO must be the date sent out by
       mail and first class too.
       #Post#: 9893--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
   DIR By: taffer87
       Date: November 12, 2023, 5:46 am
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       It definitely is not at NTO stage and its an error on their
       website.
       Date of contravention/PCN: 26 October 2023
       Informal reps: 2 November 2023
       Date of rejection notice: 10 November 2023 (not received yet)
       Council website says charge is currently £65 so looks like they
       reissued the discount for another 14 days from date of service
       but then says the charge will go up to £195 by 28 November 2023
       When in fact on 28 November 2023 or 14 days from rejection
       notice, they will be able to issue a Notice to Owner for the
       first time which should just be for £130 and probably will offer
       discount again
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