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#Post#: 89173--------------------------------------------------
Re: (PCN) Redbridge:Parking restriction on unmarked road?
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: September 9, 2025, 10:48 am
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Have you registered your appeal?
NOR issued 14 Aug, deemed served Mon. 18th. Latest date of
28-day period is 14 Sept.
Grounds:
Contravention did not occur.
Why?
Because there is no such contravention description as 'parked in
a resident's or shared use parking place or zone without either
clearly displaying'- the NTO refers. What is it you're alleged
not to be displaying.. fluffy dice, Barbie sticker?
As you don't have the PCN we cannot check this.
So far the ONLY correct description is in the NOR(para. 2), but
this is a free field and not system generated.
#Post#: 89194--------------------------------------------------
Re: (PCN) Redbridge:Parking restriction on unmarked road?
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: September 9, 2025, 12:15 pm
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Below is the relevant part of the traffic order which suggests
that the contravention description may be correct if say
physical visitor permits are available.
OP - if you can check signage at start of Mildmay Road that
would be useful.
Also one relevant appeal that suggest Redbridge doesn't know
what it's doing.
HTML https://i.imgur.com/5Rdcl66.png
Case reference 2240350574
Appellant No Word LTD
Authority London Borough of Redbridge
VRM BL07BFN
PCN Details
PCN AF07248425
Contravention date 26 Mar 2024
Contravention time 15:26:00
Contravention location Mildmay Road
Penalty amount GBP 130.00
Contravention Parked in permit space without a valid permit
Referral date -
Decision Date 18 Oct 2024
Adjudicator Anju Kaler
Appeal decision Appeal allowed
Direction
cancel the Penalty Charge Notice.
Reasons
The agreed facts are that the vehicle was at the stated location
as shown in the Civil Enforcement Officer’s photographs and a
Penalty Charge Notice was issued. The Authority asserts the
location is within a Controlled Parking Zone.
A single yellow line denotes that restrictions apply at certain
times during the day. The Authority has uploaded black and white
photographs. There are no single yellow lines seen where the
vehicle parked. The Zone Entry signs have no meaning here. I
allow the appeal.
#Post#: 89200--------------------------------------------------
Re: (PCN) Redbridge:Parking restriction on unmarked road?
DIR By: Ed26
Date: September 9, 2025, 12:33 pm
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Appeal not registered as yet desperately trying to find original
pcn. I will go back the area to see the signs and report back
#Post#: 89228--------------------------------------------------
Re: (PCN) Redbridge:Parking restriction on unmarked road?
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: September 9, 2025, 4:05 pm
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Objectively, the contravention description in the NTO is c**p.
It doesn't exist, therefore no power falls to the authority to
demand a penalty.
Seeing the PCN might explain why the authority has c***ed-up,
but it wouldn't change the fundamentals: the NTO is grossly
defective and IMO any appeal based thereon would succeed.
#Post#: 89244--------------------------------------------------
Re: (PCN) Redbridge:Parking restriction on unmarked road?
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: September 9, 2025, 4:53 pm
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By all means include Mr Andersen's point but don't lose sight of
the signage issue and the zone identified by the hatching in the
map I posted.
#Post#: 89377--------------------------------------------------
Re: (PCN) Redbridge:Parking restriction on unmarked road?
DIR By: Ed26
Date: September 10, 2025, 10:56 am
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Ok I’ve been back to the area and there is no signage at the
start of Mildway Road. Hopefully this goes in my favour?
#Post#: 89385--------------------------------------------------
Re: (PCN) Redbridge:Parking restriction on unmarked road?
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: September 10, 2025, 11:13 am
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--- Quote from: Ed26 link ---
>
> Ok I’ve been back to the area and there is no signage at the
start of Mildway Road. Hopefully this goes in my favour?
>
--- End Quote ---
Yes - my take is each PPA is standalone in this area and needs
its own entry sign.
Did you take any pics?
#Post#: 89390--------------------------------------------------
Re: (PCN) Redbridge:Parking restriction on unmarked road?
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: September 10, 2025, 11:28 am
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Appeal not registered as yet desperately trying to find original
pcn. I will go back the area to see the signs and report back
Register your appeal before you forget. You are simply
registering, you are not making it in detail, this can follow
later. If you miss the deadline then you could lose your chance
to appeal.
#Post#: 89396--------------------------------------------------
Re: (PCN) Redbridge:Parking restriction on unmarked road?
DIR By: Ed26
Date: September 10, 2025, 12:17 pm
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I did take pic but unfortunately it was dark yesterday.
HTML https://imgur.com/a/neENhqf
If I register the appeal without detail how long will I have to
submit?
#Post#: 89472--------------------------------------------------
Re: (PCN) Redbridge:Parking restriction on unmarked road?
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: September 11, 2025, 5:27 am
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Register the appeal and opt for a telephone/online hearing if
you can as it's always best to talk to the adjudicator.
You can just say for now:
The contravention did not occur as there was no entry sign
establishing Mildmay Road as a permit parking area.
Mr Andersen may suggest adding something on the contravention
description.
You can add their map I posted showing the hatched PPA and your
pic showing no entry sign.
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