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red light offence a12 please advise asap
DIR By: Ray236
Date: September 7, 2025, 5:13 pm
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please advise as my daughter had stress and anxiety due to
personal issue and took the red light is there any ground of
appeal
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Re: red light offence a12 please advise asap
DIR By: FuzzyDuck
Date: September 7, 2025, 5:41 pm
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There is nothing to appeal. At this stage all they are
requesting the name of the driver. Once that has been
established they will most likely offer a conditional offer of a
fixed penalty (3 points and £100). The named driver either
accepts that or lets it go to court. At court they would could
plead not guilty and defend the case. Nothing you have posted
would appear to be a viable defence. Being stressed suggests
that they should not have been driving, it won't help at court.
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Re: red light offence a12 please advise asap
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: September 8, 2025, 3:13 am
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Passing the signal almost six seconds after it had turned red
makes it likely that the police will not offer a fixed penalty
but instead see the matter prosecuted in court. But it's
difficult to say because as far as I know, unlike with speeding,
there are no published guidelines for the enforcement of red
light offences.
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Re: red light offence a12 please advise asap
DIR By: FuzzyDuck
Date: September 8, 2025, 6:43 am
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--- Quote from: NewJudge link ---
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> Passing the signal almost six seconds after it had turned red
makes it likely that the police will not offer a fixed penalty
but instead see the matter prosecuted in court.
>
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Good point, missed that.
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Re: red light offence a12 please advise asap
DIR By: Ray236
Date: September 8, 2025, 8:29 am
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Hi All thanks for your reply it's says on the letter I may be
eligible for a course will they offer me that ?
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Re: red light offence a12 please advise asap
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: September 8, 2025, 8:33 am
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Given it was your daughter apparently driving, it seems unlikely
you will be offered a course...
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Re: red light offence a12 please advise asap
DIR By: FuzzyDuck
Date: September 8, 2025, 9:14 am
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And as has been pointed out, being nearly 6 seconds into red
would see it being referred to court, so a course is unlikely.
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Re: red light offence a12 please advise asap
DIR By: Etihad
Date: September 19, 2025, 9:14 pm
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From personal experience only a few years ago,
I was 0.4s into the red. Police said it was 3s. I had to send my
Dashcam video footage and use an add-on with VLC media player
and then Ice cream screen recording software to prove that it
was 0.4s. I even had to buy a blank DVD and a DVD ROM on my PC
to burn the footage and post to them.
Courses are at the Force's discretion and you cannpt demand to
have it!
You will have 3 options :
- Go to court with a solicitor ( which costs ££ ) and plead not
guilty and fight
- Plead guilty and part with 1 week's pay
- Plead guilty and go to court and accept 3 points and a £100
fine
I chose option 3.. my insurance went up and legally it expires
after 3 years but insurance companies want you to declare for 4
years.
And, thank you to the great team here for helping me out.
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Re: red light offence a12 please advise asap
DIR By: The Slithy Tove
Date: September 21, 2025, 3:32 am
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--- Quote from: Etihad link ---
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> legally it expires after 3 years but insurance companies want
you to declare for 4 years.
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Not exactly. 3 years is the rolling period used for potential
totting to 12 points, which results in a ban. Points remain on
your licence for 4 years. Insurance usually want 5 years of
points history. 5 years is the period after which under the
Rehabilitation of Offenders Act the offence becomes spent, so
does not have to be declared. There are exceptions to this for
serious offences.
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