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       Re: Parked in restriced hrs bus lane, Gants Hill, Redbridge
   DIR By: NTIAEP
       Date: September 7, 2025, 12:32 pm
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       Not to hijack the thread, but under what circumstances/criteria
       would costs be awarded?
       Otherwise it's always as per what
       [member=904]Phantomcrusader[/member] says above, i.e. for
       councils, it's either win or nothing to lose.  Surely the
       adjudicators have acknowledged this?
       Or is it the case that if costs were awarded more frequently,
       councils would accept more reps, less cases would go to tribunal
       and the adjudicators would be issued a P45.
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       Re: Parked in restriced hrs bus lane, Gants Hill, Redbridge
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: September 7, 2025, 12:34 pm
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       I've moved this to the Flame Pit, as it's drifting away from the
       original topic.
       Costs are awarded where the Notice of Rejection is wholly
       unreasonable, or the the decision by the council to fight the
       appeal is wholly unreasonable. If you want to explore this in
       more depth, have a look here
  HTML https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pVrE76_RYY6bNmEpYGbsZkxtpfIeud_BT3SKfg7TzQM/edit?gid=642784037#gid=642784037<br
       />for all the cases with the word "costs" in column A.
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       Re: Parked in restriced hrs bus lane, Gants Hill, Redbridge
   DIR By: NTIAEP
       Date: September 7, 2025, 5:58 pm
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       thank you
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       Re: Parked in restriced hrs bus lane, Gants Hill, Redbridge
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: September 16, 2025, 11:38 am
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       [member=898]NTIAEP[/member]
  HTML https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/environment-traffic/key-cases/norbert-gogiel-v-london-borough-southwark
       And, costs may be awarded even if the council wins. Though, I
       failed in a recent attempt re a Lewisham case in which they made
       a statement tantamount to calling me a liar.
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       Re: Parked in restriced hrs bus lane, Gants Hill, Redbridge
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: September 16, 2025, 11:41 am
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       --- Quote from: NTIAEP link ---
       >
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       > Or is it the case that if costs were awarded more frequently,
       councils would accept more reps, less cases would go to tribunal
       and the adjudicators would be issued a P45.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You remind me of an earlier me. It's the regulations which need
       relaxing or changing. The starting point is that the adjudicator
       will not normally award costs.  See the higher court decisions
       in the link above.
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