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#Post#: 88774--------------------------------------------------
Horizon - Failure to pay for full duration of stay
DIR By: bigred247
Date: September 7, 2025, 8:15 am
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Hi all,
I received this PCN in the post from Horizon. I am the
registered keeper but was not driving the car at the time of the
said offence. Do i have any grounds for appeal here?
HTML https://i.imgur.com/qNbiXi0.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/6c9h5mG.jpeg
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Re: Horizon - Failure to pay for full duration of stay
DIR By: bigred247
Date: September 7, 2025, 8:17 am
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I have seen similar posts on the forum appealing using similar
quotes to below. Do these fit my circumstances?
--- Quote ---
>
> There will be no admission as to the identity of the driver,
and no assumptions or inferences can be made. You may not pursue
the hirer under contract law without the proper legal basis to
do so.
>
> Your Notice to Hirer can only hold the driver liable, and I
will not be naming them. If you believe otherwise, I suggest you
test your position at POPLA, where I will be making a strong
submission based on your non-compliance.
>
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 88776--------------------------------------------------
Re: Horizon - Failure to pay for full duration of stay
DIR By: jfollows
Date: September 7, 2025, 8:24 am
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No, the notice to keeper must comply with the requirements of
PoFA 2012
(
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4)
to
transfer liability from the driver to you as registered keeper,
and on one front it was sent in time to reach you within the 14
day requirement.
Horizon’s recent notices appear to comply with PoFA, but someone
else may correct me. You have the option of naming the driver if
you want to transfer the liability.
Most notices to hirers do indeed fail to comply with the
legislation, but that’s irrelevant here I suggest.
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Re: Horizon - Failure to pay for full duration of stay
DIR By: bigred247
Date: September 9, 2025, 1:14 pm
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[member=636]jfollows[/member]
Thank you for the feedback
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Re: Horizon - Failure to pay for full duration of stay
DIR By: bigred247
Date: September 9, 2025, 1:14 pm
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Any further advice folks?
#Post#: 89407--------------------------------------------------
Re: Horizon - Failure to pay for full duration of stay
DIR By: bigred247
Date: September 10, 2025, 2:02 pm
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[member=26]b789[/member] [member=636]jfollows[/member]
What would be the options here? Any further advice would be
greatly appreciated.
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Re: Horizon - Failure to pay for full duration of stay
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: September 10, 2025, 2:05 pm
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It may help you to get more meaningful advice if you can provide
more information. To help us provide the best advice, please
read the following thread carefully and provide as much of the
information it asks for as you are able to: READ THIS FIRST -
Private Parking Charges Forum guide
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/.
Assuming the driver was a customer of the shopping centre,
trying to contact the management would seem a sensible first
step.
#Post#: 89435--------------------------------------------------
Re: Horizon - Failure to pay for full duration of stay - Mercury
Shopping Centre, Romford, Essex
DIR By: bigred247
Date: September 10, 2025, 3:45 pm
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[member=103]DWMB2[/member]
Thank you for the advice. I've just read the post you linked.
For clarity, The vehicle was parked in The Mercury shopping
centre (
HTML https://share.google/1XYkwgSaaw44HiS5c)
in Romford,
Essex. Horizon alleges failure to pay for the full duration.
It's about 15 mins away from where i live, so I will try to
upload signage photos when possible and have not yet reached out
to the car parking management. Is there any advice when speaking
with them and and are they likely to be able to help given
Horizon are a private company?
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Re: Horizon - Failure to pay for full duration of stay - Mercury
Shopping Centre, Romford, Essex
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: September 10, 2025, 3:49 pm
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--- Quote from: bigred247 link ---
>
> Is there any advice when speaking with them and and are they
likely to be able to help given Horizon are a private company?
>
--- End Quote ---
A private company who they hired to manage their car park. Just
explain to them that the driver was a customer (assuming that
they were, as I said before) and ask them to intervene - if you
can provide receipts for things they bought there at the time
even better.
#Post#: 89449--------------------------------------------------
Re: Horizon - Failure to pay for full duration of stay - Mercury
Shopping Centre, Romford, Essex
DIR By: b789
Date: September 11, 2025, 3:06 am
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--- Quote from: bigred247 link ---
>
> [member=103]DWMB2[/member]
> ...and have not yet reached out to the car parking management.
>
--- End Quote ---
You are not "reaching out" to the "car parking management". You
are complaining to the landowner management company about the
unfair £100 invoice the Keeper has received because the driver
was a customer of the businesses at the site.
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