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       #Post#: 88657--------------------------------------------------
       Guy pulls out on me making me have to stop in a yellow box
       junction (exit wasn't clear though?)
   DIR By: nonPCNenjoyer
       Date: September 6, 2025, 7:04 am
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       Hi,
       Received this PCN, when I started to move on across a yellow
       junction but someone blocks my exit. What do I do?
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       Thanks
       #Post#: 88660--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Guy pulls out on me making me have to stop in a yellow box
       junction (exit wasn't clear though?)
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: September 6, 2025, 7:47 am
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       They've got a cheek enforcing this with foliage blocking some of
       the view.
       Their letter also contains some gibberish nonsense and something
       about a parking contravention presumably from another letter.
       They don't reoffer the discount so you must pay or appeal to the
       tribunal and the latter is obvious.
       I can't see you losing this.
       There may also be something from our member Hippo.
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       #Post#: 88661--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Guy pulls out on me making me have to stop in a yellow box
       junction (exit wasn't clear though?)
   DIR By: nonPCNenjoyer
       Date: September 6, 2025, 7:58 am
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       --- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
       >
       > They've got a cheek enforcing this with foliage blocking some
       of the view.
       >
       > Their letter also contains some gibberish nonsense and
       something about a parking contravention presumably from another
       letter.
       >
       > They don't reoffer the discount so you must pay or appeal to
       the tribunal and the latter is obvious.
       >
       > I can't see you losing this.
       >
       > There may also be something from our member Hippo.
       >
       >
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       >
       --- End Quote ---
       "Their letter also contains some gibberish nonsense and
       something about a parking contravention presumably from another
       letter."
       What do you mean?
       What should I put in my appeal to the tribunal?
       Thank you
       #Post#: 88662--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Guy pulls out on me making me have to stop in a yellow box
       junction (exit wasn't clear though?)
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: September 6, 2025, 8:29 am
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       May we see what you wrote in your reps, please. Also all sides
       of the original PCN (omly redact yr name & address - leave all
       else in).
       #Post#: 88669--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Guy pulls out on me making me have to stop in a yellow box
       junction (exit wasn't clear though?)
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: September 6, 2025, 9:31 am
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       Contravention 14 May
       NOR  29 Aug, served 2 Sept.
       OP, is this your vehicle or is it leased/hired?
       #Post#: 88675--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Guy pulls out on me making me have to stop in a yellow box
       junction (exit wasn't clear though?)
   DIR By: ManxTom
       Date: September 6, 2025, 10:10 am
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       --- Quote from: nonPCNenjoyer link ---
       >
       > [quote author=stamfordman link=topic=7950.msg88660#msg88660
       date=1757162837]
       > They've got a cheek enforcing this with foliage blocking some
       of the view.
       >
       > Their letter also contains some gibberish nonsense and
       something about a parking contravention presumably from another
       letter.
       >
       > They don't reoffer the discount so you must pay or appeal to
       the tribunal and the latter is obvious.
       >
       > I can't see you losing this.
       >
       > There may also be something from our member Hippo.
       >
       >
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       >
       --- End Quote ---
       "Their letter also contains some gibberish nonsense and
       something about a parking contravention presumably from another
       letter."
       What do you mean?...
       [/quote]
       Read their second paragraph
       #Post#: 88680--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Guy pulls out on me making me have to stop in a yellow box
       junction (exit wasn't clear though?)
   DIR By: nonPCNenjoyer
       Date: September 6, 2025, 11:35 am
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       --- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
       >
       > Contravention 14 May
       > NOR  29 Aug, served 2 Sept.
       >
       > OP, is this your vehicle or is it leased/hired?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It's my vehicle but just under a HP finance agreement.
       The appeal took ages? Don't they have like 1-2 months to reject
       it or accept?
       #Post#: 88681--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Guy pulls out on me making me have to stop in a yellow box
       junction (exit wasn't clear though?)
   DIR By: nonPCNenjoyer
       Date: September 6, 2025, 11:36 am
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       --- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
       >
       > May we see what you wrote in your reps, please. Also all sides
       of the original PCN (omly redact yr name & address - leave all
       else in).
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Where would I see this?
       #Post#: 88689--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Guy pulls out on me making me have to stop in a yellow box
       junction (exit wasn't clear though?)
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: September 6, 2025, 12:44 pm
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       --- Quote from: nonPCNenjoyer link ---
       >
       > [quote author=John U.K. link=topic=7950.msg88662#msg88662
       date=1757165382]
       > May we see what you wrote in your reps, please. Also all sides
       of the original PCN (omly redact yr name & address - leave all
       else in).
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Where would I see this?
       [/quote]
       In your opening post you showed us a rejection of your
       representations - this indicates you received a PCN, against
       which you made reps. So please show us all sides of the PCN
       (only redact yr name & address) and a copy of your
       representations.
       #Post#: 88704--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Guy pulls out on me making me have to stop in a yellow box
       junction (exit wasn't clear though?)
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: September 6, 2025, 3:06 pm
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       [member=15]astralite[/member] has informed of this. Tribunal it
       is and I am free to represent you. I'll PM you my details. Let's
       get on with it.
       Prevent a  charge certificate from being served? This fetters
       discretion and is contrary to what a NOR must state.
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       3. Where any representations are made under paragraph 1 above
       but the enforcing authority do not accept that a ground has been
       established, the notice served under sub-paragraph (7) of the
       said paragraph 1 (in this Schedule referred to as “the notice of
       rejection”) must—
       (a)state that a charge certificate may be served under paragraph
       5 below unless before the end of the period of 28 days beginning
       with the date of service of the notice of rejection—
       (i)the penalty charge is paid; or
       (ii)the person on whom the notice is served appeals to a traffic
       adjudicator against the penalty charge; and
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