DIR Return Create A Forum - Home
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       FreeTrafficLegalAdvice
  HTML https://ftla.createaforum.com
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       *****************************************************
   DIR Return to: Speeding and other criminal offences
       *****************************************************
       #Post#: 88638--------------------------------------------------
       NIP - Red Light - Advice needed
       By: custard4661 Date: September 6, 2025, 4:15 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Hi all,
       I've received the attached NIP for a vehicle registered to me.
       The driver at the time already has 6 points for speeding, so
       avoiding more is the priority.
       Details:
       [list]
       Offence: Fail to comply with red light signal.
       Location: A24 Upper Tooting Road j/w Beechcroft Road.
       Time into red: 1 second.
       Notice offers: An educational course as a possibility.[/list]
       [list]
       With 6 points already, is accepting the course the obvious best
       step?
       Is it worth viewing the evidence online first? What should I
       look for?
       Is there any chance of challenging based on it being only 1
       second into red?
       What's the standard penalty (points and fine) if the driver
       doesn't get the course?[/list]
       Looking for advice on how to proceed.
       Thanks.
       [img width=139
       height=180]
  HTML https://i.postimg.cc/5HFnzW7B/1000052744.jpg[/img]
  HTML https://postimg.cc/5HFnzW7B
       #Post#: 88646--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP - Red Light - Advice needed
       By: NewJudge Date: September 6, 2025, 4:45 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote]Is it worth viewing the evidence online first? What
       should I look for?[/quote]
       You should look for a picture of the vehicle in question
       crossing the “stop” line whilst the signal is showing red.
       That’s almost certainly what you will see.
       [quote]Is there any chance of challenging… [/quote]
       You have nothing to challenge at the moment because all you’ve
       received is a notice telling you prosecution is being considered
       and asking you to provide the driver’s details. If the driver
       does not fancy either of the out-of-court offers which may be
       made, the only option is to see the charge prosecuted in court.
       [quote]….based on it being only 1 second into red?[/quote]
       Bearing in mind that the preceding signal (amber) also means
       “stop” and is displayed for about three seconds, I would suggest
       that disputing the offence on the basis that it was “only” one
       second into red will not succeed.
       [quote]What's the standard penalty (points and fine) if the
       driver doesn't get the course?
       [/quote]
       £100 and three points if a fixed penalty if offered. In court, a
       fine of half a weeks’ net income (capped at £1,000 and reduced
       by a third for a guilty plea) and  a surcharge of 40% of that
       fine; prosecution costs of £90-ish (guilty plea) or £650
       (convicted following a trial) and three points.
       Regardless of anything else, you must respond to the request for
       driver’s details within the 28 days allowed.
       #Post#: 88677--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP - Red Light - Advice needed
       By: The Slithy Tove Date: September 6, 2025, 10:18 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=custard4661 link=topic=7947.msg88638#msg88638
       date=1757150158]
       Looking for advice on how to proceed.
       [/quote]
       At this point, there is only one way to proceed: name the
       driver, be it yourself or someone else. There is nothing more
       that can be done at this point.
       *****************************************************