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       Havering and Newham PCNs
   DIR By: billybob47
       Date: September 5, 2025, 11:38 am
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       Hi guys,
       Posting on behalf of a friend here, who was not the driver.
       The driver has received 2 moving traffic PCNs, one from havering
       and one from Newham. I thought collating them into one post
       would be better for clutter reasons.
       Both look pretty BTR to me, but maybe one of you know any
       loophole that could be used to get them cancelled?
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       #Post#: 88622--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havering and Newham PCNs
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: September 5, 2025, 6:08 pm
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       We prefer one case per thread but have a check on the tribunal
       for cases at the locations first for any allowed cases.
       There are two main ideas - the contravention (such as poor
       signage) and PCN/website wording issues common to other PCNs.
       Havering does not reoffer the discount on rejection, which is a
       factor to consider.
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       Re: Havering and Newham PCNs
   DIR By: Enceladus
       Date: September 5, 2025, 10:51 pm
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       The Newham video shows the car sailing past the two flying
       motorcycle signs on the corners of Ordnance Road at its junction
       with Malmesbury Road and the turn right only arrow (into
       Malmesbury Rd). Since the camera is situated in front of the car
       you can only see the backs of the signs on one side. The signs
       on the other side are hidden from the camera by the scaffolding,
       but visibility is unobstructed in the direction you were
       travelling.
       This seems to be a temporary prohibition to facilitate various
       building works in the area and it was introduced 2-3 months ago.
       I'm not sure if any cases have reached the Tribunal yet.
       Newham will usually reoffer the discount if representations
       received within the discount window is rejected. So it's always
       worth having a go.
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