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       Blackwall Tunnel charge
   DIR By: Rosy
       Date: September 3, 2025, 2:33 pm
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       Hi all.  A couple of weeks ago the driver of my car went through
       the Blackwall Tunnel.  They had also driven through the
       Silvertown Tunnel earlier in the day.  They tried to make
       payment after the first part of the journey but couldn't - they
       wanted to pay for both journeys at that point.  This is a
       screenshot of what they got when they tried to pay - they tried
       several times:
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       This has now recently come in the post.  Interestingly it's only
       for the return leg.  They didn't think of trying to pay again
       later on so no idea if payment could have been paid then.
       Rookie error.
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       What advice would you give please?
       Thanks.
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       Re: Blackwall Tunnel charge
   DIR By: Enceladus
       Date: September 3, 2025, 3:50 pm
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       Please have a read of the READ THIS FIRST - **BEFORE POSTING
       YOUR CASE!**
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       />at the top of this forum. It is only required to redact your
       name and address where present. Please leave the PCN number and
       car registration visible. As well as all dates and time and
       Enforcement Authority information.
       Please correct and repost your postal PCN.
       #Post#: 88428--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Blackwall Tunnel charge
   DIR By: Rosy
       Date: September 4, 2025, 12:54 pm
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       Hi thanks for your reply.  I don't know how to edit my previous
       post so here is the PCN again.  Thanks.
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       #Post#: 89066--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Blackwall Tunnel charge
   DIR By: Rosy
       Date: September 9, 2025, 4:25 am
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       Hi.  I'd be really grateful for some advice please.  I couldn't
       edit the original post so I re-redacted the PCN and have posted
       it again.
       Thanks.
       #Post#: 89081--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Blackwall Tunnel charge
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: September 9, 2025, 5:49 am
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       To be clear, the contravention alleged occurred at 20.15 and is
       in respect of a journey for which payment was required but where
       no attempt to pay was made. Yes?
       This is what you describe as the driver's 'rookie mistake' i.e.
       hoping that the technical issue which was apparent at 16.11 was
       still in effect and would excuse not paying?
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       Re: Blackwall Tunnel charge
   DIR By: Rosy
       Date: September 10, 2025, 12:41 pm
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       Effectively, yes.
       The journeys were part of an outing.  Payment was attempted
       between the crossings because that was the time that making
       payment would be easiest. The driver wanted to pay for both
       crossings at the same time.  They later forgot to attempt to try
       again.
       Should the PCN just be paid as it was a stupid mistake?
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       Re: Blackwall Tunnel charge
   DIR By: Enceladus
       Date: September 11, 2025, 8:08 am
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       I would get a representation submitted on TFL's website before
       close of business today, Thursday the 11th. Today being the
       expiry of the discount window that's stated on the PCN.
       If you challenge within the discount window then TFL normally
       re-offer the discount if they reject. So you might as well have
       a go.
       The Blackwall Tunnel has been free of charge for maybe a 100
       years. The charge was only introduced when the Silvertown Tunnel
       was opened on the 7th April. We've had a number of cases on here
       where PCNs have been cancelled for a first offence.
       So tell them you're terribly sorry, however you did try and pay
       but the system errored out. Ask them to use their discretion and
       cancel the PCN. Enclose a copy of your error message. See what
       comes back.
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