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Re: Response to letter of claim email
DIR By: b789
Date: September 6, 2025, 9:48 pm
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They have not complied with the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt
Claims and have failed to supply key documents (landholder
authority, proof the terms relied upon were in place on the
material date, evidence of the driver, etc.). The NtK confirms
no reliance on PoFA, so keeper liability is not available and
strict proof of driver identity is required.
Respond to them with the following and CC yourself:
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> Re: Your purported response to my PAPDC request – Ref.
711200081882PEL
>
> Dear Sirs,
>
> I acknowledge receipt of your email dated 1 September 2025.
You have provided a facsimile “terms” sign, a site plan, a copy
of your client’s NtK (which does not rely on Schedule 4 PoFA
2012), and some images. You have refused to provide the other
documents I requested, asserting they are “disproportionate
and/or not relevant”.
>
> With respect, that stance is incompatible with the Civil
Procedure Rules and the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims.
Paragraphs 3.1(a)–(d), 5.1 and 5.2 of the Protocol, and
paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction on Pre-Action
Conduct and Protocols require the early exchange of sufficient
information and key documents to enable the issues to be
understood and for narrowing to occur. Your refusal frustrates
those aims.
>
> For the avoidance of doubt:
>
> [indent]1. Your client’s NtK does not rely on PoFA to hold the
Keeper liable. Keeper liability is therefore unavailable. If you
contend the registered keeper was the driver, provide your
proof. Otherwise, please confirm that proceedings will not be
issued against the keeper.[/indent]
>
> [indent]2. Your “signage” pack is not proof of what was
present and legible on the material date. Provide
contemporaneous photographs (date-stamped) taken at the relevant
time, at driver eye-height from all approaches, showing the
entrance signage and the terms relied upon, and a plan
cross-referencing each sign’s exact position.[/indent]
>
> [indent]3. Identify the precise contractual term allegedly
breached. Your allegation is pleaded in the alternative (“either
… or …”), which is impermissibly vague. Specify the single
clause relied upon and explain how you say it was breached on
the facts.[/indent]
>
> [indent]4. Standing: produce the landholder contract (or a
suitably redacted copy) conferring authority on the named
Claimant to operate, issue PCNs and litigate in its own name for
the material period. A generic witness statement will not
suffice; I require the operative grant of authority.[/indent]
>
> [indent]5. Quantum: you continue to demand £170. Identify the
principal sum, the legal basis for any add-on, and whether any
“debt recovery” component includes VAT (and if not, why not). If
you contend the add-on is recoverable, set out the authority you
rely upon.[/indent]
>
> I repeat that I am entitled to these materials under PD-PAC
6(a) and 6(c), and I need them to comply with 6(b). Upon receipt
of a compliant Letter of Claim that encloses the above, I will
provide a full response within 30 days.
>
> If you issue without first complying, I will apply immediately
for a stay under PD-PAC 15(b), with costs, and will invite the
court to impose appropriate sanctions having regard to
paragraphs 13 and 16.
>
> Please either provide the documents within 14 days and
re-start the 30-day PAPDC clock with a compliant Letter of
Claim, or confirm that the matter is discontinued against the
registered keeper.
>
> Yours faithfully,
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Re: Response to letter of claim email
DIR By: TW-27
Date: September 7, 2025, 9:04 am
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Great, thank you.
Much appreciated!
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