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Re: Help re an eviction notice while abroad
By: Southpaw82 Date: November 14, 2023, 9:46 am
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Having read back through the thread, it appears that you were
wrong as to the law (HCEOs can't enter with force to effect an
eviction) and rosywillow was correct, as you've acknowledged. I
don't really get your last post, which seems just to be an
effort at saving face by you.
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Re: Help re an eviction notice while abroad
By: PeacefulWarrior Date: November 14, 2023, 9:56 am
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He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know.
Lao Tzu
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Re: Help re an eviction notice while abroad
By: DWMB2 Date: November 14, 2023, 10:04 am
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[quote] This only leads to other people bowing their heads in
front of injustice [/quote]
I'm not sure anyone was advocating bowing heads in front of
injustice. Most of the comments seemed to come from a place of
genuine concern for the wellbeing of your children, who appeared
to be facing the very real threat of a HCEO forcing entry,
without anyone older than 18 present.
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Re: Help re an eviction notice while abroad
By: ivanleo Date: November 14, 2023, 10:18 am
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[quote author=PeacefulWarrior link=topic=786.msg10165#msg10165
date=1699977392]
He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know.
[/quote]
On a legal advice forum, someone who knows and doesn't speak
would be pretty useless.
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Re: Help re an eviction notice while abroad
By: PeacefulWarrior Date: November 14, 2023, 11:05 am
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Hahahaha...good one and fair enough. I guess the saying could be
amended for the legal forums as such:
He who knows, does not speak about things he knows little about.
He who speaks when knowing little, does not know when to be
quiet.
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Re: Help re an eviction notice while abroad
By: Southpaw82 Date: November 14, 2023, 11:13 am
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[quote author=PeacefulWarrior link=topic=786.msg10172#msg10172
date=1699981526]
Hahahaha...good one and fair enough. I guess the saying could be
amended for the legal forums as such:
He who knows, does not speak about things he knows little about.
He who speaks when knowing little, does not know when to be
quiet.
[/quote]
Are you suggesting I don’t know what I’m talking about?
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Re: Help re an eviction notice while abroad
By: PeacefulWarrior Date: November 14, 2023, 11:52 am
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Not suggesting anything. Just answering to cp8759 :)
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Re: Help re an eviction notice while abroad
By: PeacefulWarrior Date: November 14, 2023, 12:05 pm
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[quote author=Southpaw82 link=topic=786.msg10162#msg10162
date=1699976817]
Having read back through the thread, it appears that you were
wrong as to the law (HCEOs can't enter with force to effect an
eviction) and rosywillow was correct, as you've acknowledged. I
don't really get your last post, which seems just to be an
effort at saving face by you.
[/quote]
According to Citizen Advice:
'They aren't allowed to break down your door - they have to use
'reasonable force'. This means they'll have to come back with a
locksmith who will unlock the door.'
HTML https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/debt-and-money/action-your-creditor-can-take/bailiffs/stopping-bailiffs/stopping-bailiffs-at-your-door/
Looks like I was right after all?
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Re: Help re an eviction notice while abroad
By: ivanleo Date: November 14, 2023, 12:13 pm
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No, what is reasonable force is for the court to decide, not a
well-meaning charity.
There have been occasions where HCEOs have carried out evictions
by gaining entry with crowbars, chainsaws, it all depends on the
circumstances. In one particular gypsy camp eviction in Essex
they sought assistance from the police who barged in first,
tasers drawn.
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Re: Help re an eviction notice while abroad
By: PeacefulWarrior Date: November 14, 2023, 12:52 pm
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Yes, I can imagine. Having lived not far from a neighborhood
predominantly populated by gypsies, I know they are usually
proud, independent people, who don't take kindly to
intimidation. Bailiffs would not be able to scare them. But that
would be a totally different can of worms in itself, that I
would rather leave unopened.
In my case, we are talking about a 15 yo minor alone on the
premises. While a pending N244 was in the Court. Hardly any
reasons for using unreasonable force like breaking doors down to
smithereens'. I am still searching for the exact link to the bit
of legislation that says something about agents not being
allowed to proceed when that is the case. I'm sure I will soon
find it, just need some more time.
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