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#Post#: 87756--------------------------------------------------
London Borough of Hounslow, Littering (Fixed Penalty Notice)
By: S23 Date: August 29, 2025, 4:53 pm
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Hi all,
Hoping for some kind advice whilst assisting a friend who is
unemployed and struggling financially.
Timeline of events:
[list]
[li]27/07/25 - Date of fixed penalty notice for alleged
littering offence of dropping cigarette butt in heavily littered
area. Alleged offender claims unintentional and feels harassed
by enforcement officers.[/li]
[li]04/08/25 – Initial appeal/complaint sent via APCOA online
portal regarding incorrect location on FPN (see below).
Auto-response acknowledgement from APCOA received on same date.
[quote]Dear Sir/Madam,
I am writing to formally challenge the Fixed Penalty Notice
(FPN) issued to me, going through this process, as I believe it
has been incorrectly recorded. On 27 July 2025, I was walking
through Lampton Park, located at postcode TW3 4FD. However, the
FPN states that the alleged offence occurred in Feltham TW14
0HP, with a completely different postcode. This discrepancy
raises concerns about the accuracy of the notice.
I trust that any available footage or location data will confirm
that I was in Lampton Park at the stated time, not in Feltham.
In light of this error, I respectfully request that the FPN be
cancelled. I look forward to your response,
Regards[/quote]
[/li]
[li]13/08/25 - 'Reminder Letter' dated 11/08/25 received in post
from Hounslow Council. New FPN dated 11/08/25 (same date as
letter) shown on reverse containing corrected location
information. Letter states fine 'now increased to £500' (from
£250) - without the reduced payment period having been offered
for the new FPN as wording suggests. Original FPN number shown
as voided when viewing online portal.[/li]
[li]28/08/25 - 'Final Reminder' dated 26/08/25 received in post
from Hounslow Council stating to make £500 payment within 7 days
of the letter date to avoid prosecution in Magistrates
Court[/li]
[li]29/08/25 - Subject Access Request (SAR) sent to Hounslow
Council by alleged offender requesting all evidence including
body footage of enforcement officer for both FPNs.[/li]
[/list]
Notable points:
[list]
[li]Incorrect location on original FPN.[/li]
[li]No response received from APCOA after online portal
appeal/complaint on 04/08/25.[/li]
[li]Reminder letter received dated 11/08/25 for a new FPN with
correct location - FPN also dated 11/08/25[/li]
[li]New FPN not received at all by alleged offender[/li]
[li]Same reminder letter 'increased fine to £500' without
offering reduced charge time period for new FPN[/li]
[li]Original FPN showing as voided after checking manually on
online portal[/li]
[li]Payment deadline to avoid criminal prosecution is Tues 2nd
Sept[/li]
[li]Mitigating personal circumstances: Alleged offender cites
'severe emotional distress' at the time of alleged offence,
which can be supported by Hounslow NHS Mental Health Integration
Network (MINT) therapist.[/li]
[/list]
Link to all documents:
HTML https://drive.proton.me/urls/S6YCWHK6HR#pYnNBht1Pr80
HTML https://drive.proton.me/urls/S6YCWHK6HR#pYnNBht1Pr80
Clearly this feels like procedural impropriety? Please let me
know if you have any advice at all as the alleged offender is
otherwise looking to pay on Monday to avoid criminal
prosecution. Thank you for your time
#Post#: 87781--------------------------------------------------
Re: London Borough of Hounslow, Littering (Fixed Penalty Notice)
By: Southpaw82 Date: August 30, 2025, 5:06 am
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This isn’t a PCN, it’s a criminal matter. Ultimately, if he
doesn’t pay he’s likely to be prosecuted in the magistrate’s
court. The FPN then becomes irrelevant. If he’s admitted the
offence in writing then it shouldn’t be too hard for them to
prove.
#Post#: 87934--------------------------------------------------
Re: London Borough of Hounslow, Littering (Fixed Penalty Notice)
By: S23 Date: September 1, 2025, 2:26 am
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Any final advice please? Should they simply pay up as there are
no grounds in court for a win?
#Post#: 89534--------------------------------------------------
Re: London Borough of Hounslow, Littering (Fixed Penalty Notice)
By: S23 Date: September 11, 2025, 10:46 am
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Paid £500. Council refunded £250 due to the error described
above on their part. Closed
#Post#: 89549--------------------------------------------------
Re: London Borough of Hounslow, Littering (Fixed Penalty Notice)
By: mickR Date: September 11, 2025, 1:40 pm
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[quote author=Southpaw82 link=topic=7852.msg87781#msg87781
date=1756548363]
If he’s admitted the offence in writing
[/quote]
possibly not the best approach for this type of FPN ??
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