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       Salter's Hill case - you decide
       By: stamfordman Date: August 29, 2025, 11:13 am
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       One for the civil connoisseurs at one of our favourite
       locations, Salter's Hill, Lambeth.
       Was this case at the tribunal allowed or refused?
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       Re: Salter's Hill case - you decide
       By: The Slithy Tove Date: September 1, 2025, 2:08 am
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       Regardless of the never-ending debate around exactly at what
       point are you considered "committed" into the restriction (by
       the time the car driver would have seen the van, reacted and
       braked to a halt, they'd probably have been in the restriction),
       the van driver was an aggressive ****. They delayed themselves
       far more by asserting their perceived "priority", forcing the
       confrontation and faffing around that ensued, than they would if
       they'd just allowed the car to complete its traversal of the
       restriction.
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       Re: Salter's Hill case - you decide
       By: roythebus Date: September 1, 2025, 3:59 am
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       Yes, I have to agree with S T above. Maybe the car driver could
       have taken it a bit slower just in case this happened.But
       there's so many aggressive drivers around these days, why cause
       more problems?
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       Re: Salter's Hill case - you decide
       By: mickR Date: September 1, 2025, 4:14 am
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       imo the car was in the zone before the van had even fully
       completed his turn and was going to fast. I wouldn't have
       reversed.
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       Re: Salter's Hill case - you decide
       By: stamfordman Date: September 1, 2025, 6:50 am
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       The appeal was allowed. Yes the van driver went too fast but of
       course the poor driver with the PCN did gave way by reversing!
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       I have reviewed the CCTV footage in this case. The footage shows
       that the driver of Mr Nicholson's vehicle approached the give
       way line with due caution and crossed the line as a van came
       round the corner from the other direction, travelling at some
       speed and driven in such a manner as to block the exit of Mr
       Nicholson's vehicle. The driver of Mr Nicholson's vehicle then
       reversed to give way to the van.
       There is no signage to stop at the give way line. I am satisfied
       that the driver approached the give way line with caution and
       was caught unawares by the manner of travel of the van coming
       from the opposite direction. As Mr Nicholson's vehicle was then
       reversed to give way, it must follow that the alleged
       contravention did not occur.
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       Re: Salter's Hill case - you decide
       By: mickR Date: September 9, 2025, 3:58 am
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       I wonder what the van driver would have done if it were a large
       vehicle and not a small car? or maybe if it had been me who
       would not have reversed  >:(
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