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       #Post#: 91434--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gemini Parking Solutions Parking PCN – Exceeded Maximum Stay
        Period – Burger King, Gants Hill
       By: DWMB2 Date: September 25, 2025, 6:23 am
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       If the notice is addressed to you, then Gemini are pursuing you
       and you can therefore appeal.
       #Post#: 94144--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gemini Parking Solutions Parking PCN – Exceeded Maximu
       m Stay Period – Burger King, Gants Hill
       By: Atlas8592 Date: October 15, 2025, 5:47 am
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       Received this today, from what I understand appealing as a
       Keeper is valid and the driver doesn't have to be the one to
       appeal?
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       #Post#: 94145--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gemini Parking Solutions Parking PCN – Exceeded Maximum Stay
        Period – Burger King, Gants Hill
       By: jfollows Date: October 15, 2025, 5:54 am
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       It’s a fishing exercise, lots of them do it to try to persuade
       you to identify the driver.
       You appealed as hirer in the face of non-compliance with PoFA
       2012, didn’t you?
       You can ignore this, they will then reject your valid appeal,
       allow you to get the IAS to do the same, but would lose in
       court.
       #Post#: 94148--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gemini Parking Solutions Parking PCN – Exceeded Maximum Stay
        Period – Burger King, Gants Hill
       By: Atlas8592 Date: October 15, 2025, 6:11 am
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       [quote author=jfollows link=topic=7812.msg94145#msg94145
       date=1760525658]
       It’s a fishing exercise, lots of them do it to try to persuade
       you to identify the driver.
       You appealed as hirer in the face of non-compliance with PoFA
       2012, didn’t you?
       You can ignore this, they will then reject your valid appeal,
       allow you to get the IAS to do the same, but would lose in
       court.
       [/quote]
       I did indeed appeal with PoFA 2012, worth just sending the same
       appeal again to speed it up?
       I'll have to go court in the end I assume if they chase it past
       IAS? I'm fine with that, they'd lose on PoFA 2012 alone.
       #Post#: 94151--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gemini Parking Solutions Parking PCN – Exceeded Maximum Stay
        Period – Burger King, Gants Hill
       By: jfollows Date: October 15, 2025, 6:23 am
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       Personally, I’d ignore, and definitely wouldn’t send the same
       appeal again. Now they will lie to hope you will cave in and
       pay. The IAS will cost them £23 even if they do the usual and
       side with the operator. Then useless debt recovery letters from
       DCBL (ignore) and equally useless bulk litigator DCB Legal (come
       back when you get their Letter of Claim). Search the forum to
       see more about DCB Legal. They initiate the court process but
       discontinue before having to pay the fee if it’s properly
       defended which it will be. Their tactics are to scare you into
       paying up or getting a judgement in default if you ignore.
       #Post#: 94208--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gemini Parking Solutions Parking PCN – Exceeded Maximum Stay
        Period – Burger King, Gants Hill
       By: b789 Date: October 15, 2025, 10:02 am
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       If this ever went to litigation, I'll eat my hat. Gemini are
       owned by APCOA and APCOA do NOT litigate. Just go through the
       motions and after the inevitable IAS rejection, you can safely
       ignore all debt recovery letters. Debt collectors are powerless
       to do anything except to try and intimidate the low-hanging
       fruit on the gullible tree into paying ut of ignorance and fear.
       Eventually they will give up.
       If you want to understand why APCOA don't bother wasting their
       time and money with litigation, have a read of this thread which
       shows how much they make from the 'Gullibles' who pay up anyway:
       FYI, FoI request for data on Penalty Notices issued by APCOA on
       Southwestern Railway car parks
  HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/fyi-foi-request-for-data-on-penalty-notices-issued-by-apcoa-on-southwestern-rail/
       #Post#: 113844--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gemini Parking Solutions Parking PCN – Exceeded Maximum Stay
        Period – Burger King, Gants Hill
       By: Atlas8592 Date: March 20, 2026, 9:22 am
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       Got a response finally:
       "We refer to your correspondence regarding the above PC issued
       to your vehicle. We have investigated your case and have
       considered the points that were raised.
       We are pleased to confirm that on this occasion your appeal has
       been upheld and this PC has been cancelled. No further action is
       required at this time."
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