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       #Post#: 8318--------------------------------------------------
       Excel Iceland car park
   DIR By: Hashim
       Date: October 25, 2023, 4:16 am
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       Hello members.
       The driver entered the car park and parked in the disabled bay
       where they received a phone call which they took. After
       completing the call they went to get a ticket only to find that
       the machine only coin payment which the driver didnt have and
       then they saw the terms and conditions and it stated that the
       driver of a vehicle has 10 minutes to purchase a ticket upon
       entering the car park. The driver did not have any change and
       there was no concession made for disabled drivers and so
       subsequently left . Then the following charge notice was
       received.
       Thanks
       
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       #Post#: 8325--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Excel Iceland car park
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: October 25, 2023, 4:53 am
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       From what you have posted so far I'm struggling to find any
       obvious routes of challenge that would provide a decent chance
       of success.
       Motorists must be allowed a 'consideration period' to consider
       the terms and conditions on offer and either decide to accept
       them and park, or to decline them and leave. Whilst the BPA
       specifies a minimum period of 5 minutes, the IPC, of which Excel
       are a member, do not specify, simply saying it must be
       'sufficient'. Not only was the drivers stay a lot longer than 5
       minutes, by your account of the situation they didn't use the
       time to consider the terms, instead taking a phone call.
       With this in mind, it may be worth considering paying the
       discounted amount. There's no harm in speaking to Iceland to see
       if they'll help, but if the driver was not a customer they're
       probably unlikely to.
       Just to check there aren't any other options, do you have and
       photos of the signage?
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       Re: Excel Iceland car park
   DIR By: Hashim
       Date: October 26, 2023, 8:26 pm
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       What about going down the route of driver unknown...I have
       attached the signage..
       Thanks
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       #Post#: 8511--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Excel Iceland car park
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: October 27, 2023, 3:26 am
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       --- Quote from: Hashim link ---
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       > What about going down the route of driver unknown...
       >
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       Presumably you mean choosing not to name the driver (as it seems
       unlikely you don't know who was driving). This is unlikely to
       work... From the looks of the notice they have complied with
       Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, so they can
       hold you liable for the charge as the Registered Keeper.
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