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#Post#: 87046--------------------------------------------------
Very harsh Code 27 - allegedly parked over a dropped kerb - next
to Brent Park, NW11
DIR By: feelsunfair
Date: August 24, 2025, 4:27 pm
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Location: Bridge Lane, NW11
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Parked next to the entrance to Brent Park on Bridge Lane,
received a PCN for allegedly parking over a dropped kerb, see
below.
The car wasn't obstructing the entrance at all and was hardly
over the dropped kerb if at all depending on what angle you are
looking from. This seems extremely harsh.
I can't see any images showing up on the online PCN viewer, not
sure why. Maybe it's too soon?. They seem to be showing up now.
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Notice Number: AG49336060
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To make matters more confusing we are planning to move abroad in
the next few weeks and sell the car, so if we do appeal we might
not see their response in a timely manner. Not sure if this
makes things better or worse for us?
Your advice is very much appreciated.
#Post#: 87049--------------------------------------------------
Re: Very harsh Code 27 - allegedly parked over a dropped kerb -
next to Brent Park, NW11
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: August 24, 2025, 5:14 pm
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That's about as trivial as these get and I would just say no
contravention, not only for the supposed encroachment on to the
fully dropped part but also because this bit of poorly
maintained lowered footway doesn't seem to be for a crossing,
vehicle access or cycle track.
What are your movements and can you have your post serviced. The
online viewer also gives PCN status I think.
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#Post#: 87051--------------------------------------------------
Re: Very harsh Code 27 - allegedly parked over a dropped kerb -
next to Brent Park, NW11
DIR By: feelsunfair
Date: August 24, 2025, 5:21 pm
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Thanks very much for getting back to me.
I believe that the reason for the dropped kerb is to allow
access to the park for emergency vehicles (and council
maintenance vehicles that do enter from time to time). But the
car wasn't parked in a way that would obstruct any emergency or
other vehicle from getting into the park.
We don't have confirmed moving dates yet - but we will be
checking the post frequently at least for the next week, after
that we could ask old neighbours or friends to go in and check
the post from time to time. Can we ask the council to send
copies of their response by email (or to our new address abroad
- probably not so practical as the post in our destination
country is known to be slow)?
#Post#: 87052--------------------------------------------------
Re: Very harsh Code 27 - allegedly parked over a dropped kerb -
next to Brent Park, NW11
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: August 24, 2025, 5:26 pm
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If you're moving abroad (permanently?) they can't chase you for
a PCN debt.
I would challenge the PCN saying the contravention didn't occur
and tell them you are selling the car and moving abroad and
invite them to cancel to close it off.
See what others say.
#Post#: 87059--------------------------------------------------
Re: Very harsh Code 27 - allegedly parked over a dropped kerb -
next to Brent Park, NW11
DIR By: feelsunfair
Date: August 24, 2025, 5:39 pm
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Thanks so much stamfordman. Yes we are intending to move abroad
permanently but for the short/medium term we will still have
bank/savings/investments based in the UK, not sure if that
changes anything.
Here's my draft challenge based on your advice. I'll wait to see
what others suggest.
--- Quote ---
>
> Dear Sir/Madam,
>
> Re: AG49336060
>
> In reference to the above PCN I would like to challenge this
on the grounds that no contravention occurred. The vehicle is
clearly not obstructing the dropped kerb or any vehicular access
route.
>
> In addition, we are intending to move abroad in the next few
weeks and will be selling the car so may not see any postal
response in a timely fashion.
>
> Please confirm cancellation of this PCN ASAP (in the hope that
it might arrive before we move) and send a copy by email (in
case it doesn't arrive before we move).
>
> Thank you
>
>
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 87071--------------------------------------------------
Re: Very harsh Code 27 - allegedly parked over a dropped kerb -
next to Brent Park, NW11
DIR By: mrmustard
Date: August 25, 2025, 2:28 am
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I am happy to be your representative and Barnet then usually
copy rejections to me. You could then notify the council of your
new address once you have it and they will lose interest. I also
think the pcn is too trivial and that an adjudicator, once we
get there, will cancel it. Email mrmustard@zoho.com
#Post#: 87080--------------------------------------------------
Re: Very harsh Code 27 - allegedly parked over a dropped kerb -
next to Brent Park, NW11
DIR By: feelsunfair
Date: August 25, 2025, 4:36 am
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Thanks very much, I might send the initial challenge based on
the above and then will take it from there depending on how they
respond.
We have a new address (abroad) already which I can give them. We
just haven't moved into it yet.
#Post#: 87081--------------------------------------------------
Re: Very harsh Code 27 - allegedly parked over a dropped kerb -
next to Brent Park, NW11
DIR By: mrmustard
Date: August 25, 2025, 4:38 am
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The council won't get that new address from dvla unless you
change it
#Post#: 87082--------------------------------------------------
Re: Very harsh Code 27 - allegedly parked over a dropped kerb -
next to Brent Park, NW11
DIR By: feelsunfair
Date: August 25, 2025, 4:44 am
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We won't be changing the address with DVLA - we are selling the
car so the buyer will be doing that. Once the car is sold the
address it's registered to won't be ours.
I don't know at what point the council will request details from
DVLA - and I don't yet know what date the car will be sold so
it's difficult to see how this will work out.
Is it to our advantage to tell the council of our new address in
our representation either now or at a future stage or is it not
necessary / helpful to inform them of the new address at all?
#Post#: 87625--------------------------------------------------
Re: Very harsh Code 27 - allegedly parked over a dropped kerb -
next to Brent Park, NW11
DIR By: feelsunfair
Date: August 28, 2025, 5:09 pm
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Before I submit the challenge, just wanted to check is it better
to give the council more details or less about the upcoming
move, e.g.
--- Quote ---
>
> We are planning to move abroad and sell the car in the next
few weeks.
>
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vs
--- Quote ---
>
> Please note that as of ... September our new address will be:
> <foreign address here>
>
> Any further correspondence regarding this matter to arrive
from this date onwards should be sent to my new address and
allow additional time for me to receive it and respond as
international postal delays are common.
>
--- End Quote ---
Or does it really not make any difference what I say now? (In
which case - should I advise them of my new address? Presumably
yes? If so, how and when should I do so?)
Thank you for all your advice.
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