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#Post#: 86931--------------------------------------------------
Camden Council parked in an EV charging without cable, got
ticket while retrieving cable from house
DIR By: frank rap
Date: August 23, 2025, 11:58 am
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HI I am trying to appeal a Notice to Owner related to a PCN I
received for parking in an EV charging bay near my home but
going home to get my charging cable before charging. In the
15-20 minutes it took to retrieve my cable I received a PCN. The
bay is confusing as there are two charging bays but the sign
only appears to apply to one bay. I have photos of my vehicle
charging immediately after the ticket was issued. I also have
health reasons for needing to visit the bathroom - but when I
appealed initially they told me I should be able to manage those
health issues and dimsissed them. I have resident parking and
parking is generally restricted from 10am -midday Mon-Friday.
The ticket was given to me at 8.27am and says I 'was parked in
an electric vehicle charging place during restricted hours
without charging'. But there is no mention of any restricted
hours for the EV charging sign. Does that mean it is restricted
24 hours a day? I have 28 days to appeal. Any advice gratefully
received.
#Post#: 86934--------------------------------------------------
Re: Camden Council parked in an EV charging without cable, got
ticket while retrieving cable from house
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: August 23, 2025, 12:18 pm
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For meaningful advice please to have a read of
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
and post up here -
both sides of the unredacted PCN,
a copy of your challenge,
all sides of the Notice of Rejection,
all sides of the Notice to Owner,
any council photos,
and a GSV link to the location.
Only redact yr name & address from documents - leave all else
in.
#Post#: 86985--------------------------------------------------
Re: Camden Council parked in an EV charging without cable, got
ticket while retrieving cable from house
DIR By: frank rap
Date: August 24, 2025, 7:14 am
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hi thanks for instructions have uploaded the pin both sides, my
first attempt at appeal and one of the images I attached to
appeal. Rest to follow in next post
#Post#: 86986--------------------------------------------------
Re: Camden Council parked in an EV charging without cable, got
ticket while retrieving cable from house
DIR By: frank rap
Date: August 24, 2025, 7:18 am
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link to photos here
HTML https://imgur.com/a/9uDvMbw
#Post#: 86990--------------------------------------------------
Re: Camden Council parked in an EV charging without cable, got
ticket while retrieving cable from house
DIR By: frank rap
Date: August 24, 2025, 7:36 am
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HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/tPtb6daCmcTau3p58
location here and
notice attached
#Post#: 86991--------------------------------------------------
Re: Camden Council parked in an EV charging without cable, got
ticket while retrieving cable from house
DIR By: frank rap
Date: August 24, 2025, 7:37 am
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think this is final doc
#Post#: 86996--------------------------------------------------
Re: Camden Council parked in an EV charging without cable, got
ticket while retrieving cable from house
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: August 24, 2025, 9:32 am
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Based on your account, I cannot see a successful defence on this
point.
You admit to parking 20 minutes before actually charging. While
an adjudicator might accept that going straight to your house to
retrieve the correct cable and returning might be a defence, the
time taken here and ancillary activities militate against this
IMO.
#Post#: 87000--------------------------------------------------
Re: Camden Council parked in an EV charging without cable, got
ticket while retrieving cable from house
DIR By: Pastmybest
Date: August 24, 2025, 10:08 am
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We need to see the council photos, though to be honest i do not
hold out a great deal of hope
#Post#: 87013--------------------------------------------------
Re: Camden Council parked in an EV charging without cable, got
ticket while retrieving cable from house
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: August 24, 2025, 10:58 am
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I think it's the wrong contravention as it alleges not charging
but I don't think the parent order says this.
Councils do make errors in their EV orders - it seems that
Camden requires you to be connected but not actually charging!
At all times whilst an electric vehicle is waiting in a parking
place, the driver shall cause
that vehicle to be connected via a recharging lead to the
charging post installed in
respect of the parking place.
HTML https://www.camdenrise.co.uk/documents/20142/4207070/The+Camden+%28Parking+Places%29+%28Charging+Points+for+Electric+Vehicles%29+Traffic+Order+2012+%281%29.pdf/617fd4cd-5f5a-5529-a650-b9d5ea4e678e
In their rejection they say:
The signage explaining that only electric vehicles that are
recharging are allowed to park in this bay was clearly visible
at the location. As your vehicle did not comply with the
conditions of use of this bay the PCN was correctly issued in
this case.
This seems to me to be wrong as the order doesn't say this.
I presume you don't keep the cable in the van because of theft?
There is no council pic of the parking sign - what is it?
HTML https://i.imgur.com/agux1gT.jpeg
HTML https://i.ibb.co/Tq882BMp/Screenshot-2025-08-24-at-16-42-23.png
HTML https://i.ibb.co/4w73qNb9/Screenshot-2025-08-24-at-16-42-32.png
HTML https://i.ibb.co/sdgnBw5h/Screenshot-2025-08-24-at-16-42-40.png
HTML https://i.ibb.co/s9M89T40/Screenshot-2025-08-24-at-16-42-54.png
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Re: Camden Council parked in an EV charging without cable, got
ticket while retrieving cable from house
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: August 24, 2025, 11:15 am
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Sorry, but IMO this won't fly. The nuisance which the provision
seeks to address is clear and therefore reading the TMO section
as a whole would lead to 'being connected' being interpreted as
charging.
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