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#Post#: 86052--------------------------------------------------
Parking Eye PCN issued after 12 weeks - Ilford Retail Park
DIR By: Captainships1
Date: August 17, 2025, 5:59 pm
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Hi all,
Recieved the below PCN through the post for apparently returning
to the car park within one hour even though parking was paid for
both visits. The driver does not remember seeing any signs with
this condition.
Images of the pcn:
HTML https://postimg.cc/gallery/1mfWB0v
As this has been issued way beyond the 14 day deadline, does the
registered keeper need to appeal? Or can it simply be ignored?
#Post#: 86057--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking Eye PCN issued after 12 weeks - Ilford Retail Park
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: August 18, 2025, 2:25 am
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Just to confirm, you are the registered keeper of the vehicle
and not (for example) the hirer of a lease car on finance etc.?
If so, you have a rare golden ticket from ParkingEye and you can
appeal as the keeper with the below:
[indent]Dear Sirs,
I have received your Parking Charge Notice (Ref: ________) for
vehicle registration mark ____ ___, in which you allege that the
driver has incurred a parking charge. I note from your
correspondence that you are not seeking to hold me liable as the
registered keeper, under Schedule 4 of the Protection of
Freedoms Act 2012 ("The Act"). You have chosen not to issue a
Notice to Keeper in accordance with The Act, and it is now too
late for you to do so.
There is no obligation for me to name the driver and I will not
be doing so. I am therefore unable to help you further with this
matter, and look forward to your confirmation that the charge
has been cancelled. If you choose to decline this appeal, you
must issue a POPLA code.
Yours,[/indent]
If appealing online, be careful there are no drop down/tick
boxes that cause you to identify who was driving, and keep a
close eye on your spam folder for their response. If they do not
respond within 28 days, chase them.
#Post#: 86082--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking Eye PCN issued after 12 weeks - Ilford Retail Park
DIR By: b789
Date: August 18, 2025, 5:02 am
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Where is the image of the back of the Notice? Highly unusual for
PE to issue a Notice to Keeper (NtK) outside of the relevant
period, which suggests this may be a Notice to Hirer (NtH).
#Post#: 86086--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking Eye PCN issued after 12 weeks - Ilford Retail Park
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: August 18, 2025, 5:17 am
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--- Quote from: b789 link ---
>
> Where is the image of the back of the Notice?
>
--- End Quote ---
Both pages are available in the PostImg link above.
--- Quote from: b789 link ---
>
> Highly unusual for PE to issue a Notice to Keeper (NtK)
outside of the relevant period, which suggests this may be a
Notice to Hirer (NtH).
--- End Quote ---
That was my first thought, too.
#Post#: 86095--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking Eye PCN issued after 12 weeks - Ilford Retail Park
DIR By: Captainships1
Date: August 18, 2025, 6:09 am
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Yes, it's the registered keeper. It's not a hire car.
Also, just for my knowledge, can such letters be ignored if
there is no keeper liability?
Many thanks
#Post#: 86099--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking Eye PCN issued after 12 weeks - Ilford Retail Park
DIR By: b789
Date: August 18, 2025, 6:15 am
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--- Quote from: Captainships1 link ---
>
> just for my knowledge, can such letters be ignored if there is
no keeper liability?
>
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No.
#Post#: 88526--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking Eye PCN issued after 12 weeks - Ilford Retail Park
DIR By: Captainships1
Date: September 5, 2025, 6:16 am
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Hi all,
The Keeper recieved the following email letter, saying that the
PCN is put on hold while they await information about who the
driver was, and that if the information isn't provided within 28
days, they will reject the appeal and issue a Popla code. Here
is the image of the letter:
HTML https://postimg.cc/QB6sRHL4
Can the keeper ignore this for now?
Many thanks.
#Post#: 88532--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking Eye PCN issued after 12 weeks - Ilford Retail Park
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: September 5, 2025, 6:39 am
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Yes, it's their standard fishing exercise.
#Post#: 88537--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking Eye PCN issued after 12 weeks - Ilford Retail Park
DIR By: b789
Date: September 5, 2025, 7:03 am
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Reply with the following:
--- Quote ---
> Subject: Re: Parking Charge Notice 708543/683695 – Keeper
liability denied
>
> Dear ParkingEye,
>
> I write as the registered keeper regarding PCN 708543/683695
(Ilford Retail Park; alleged event 01/05/2025 at 17:11).
>
> Your Notice to Keeper was issued well outside the relevant
period and does not purport to rely on Schedule 4 of the
Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. In the absence of PoFA
reliance, there is no lawful route to keeper liability.
>
> Your request that the keeper identifies the driver is
therefore misconceived. There is no legal obligation to provide
driver details and no adverse inference can be drawn from a
refusal. No admissions are made as to the identity of the driver
and I decline your request.
>
> You may now either cancel the charge or issue a POPLA
verification code forthwith. If you prefer to pay POPLA to
defend an appeal you cannot lawfully win, be my guest; the
appeal will succeed on the simple point that you have chosen not
to rely on PoFA and thus cannot transfer liability to the
keeper. Should you assert otherwise, please identify the precise
legal basis on which you contend keeper liability arises without
PoFA and the wording in your NtK that you say engages it.
>
> Pending resolution, do not pass my data to any third party
other than POPLA for the sole purpose of the appeal.
>
> Yours faithfully,
>
> [Full name of keeper]
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 97034--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking Eye PCN issued after 12 weeks - Ilford Retail Park
DIR By: Captainships
Date: November 6, 2025, 5:54 am
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Hi all,
Popla have notified me that Parking Eye have submitted their
evidence and that I have 7 days to comment:
"You have seven days from the date of this correspondence to
provide comments on the evidence uploaded by Parking Eye Ltd
including Car Parking Partnership (CPP) - EW.
Please note that these comments must relate to the grounds of
appeal you submitted when first lodging your appeal with POPLA,
we do not accept new grounds of appeal or evidence at this
stage"
The evidence they have posted are basically images of the car
entering and exiting twice within one hour. It also contains
attachments of the various letters they issued and images of
signages in and around the car park. There is nothing there
(that I can see) that relates to the fact that their PCN has
been issued out of time to be able to pursue the registered
keeper.
Do I need to comment on the evidence or shall I just ignore and
wait for the Popla decision?
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