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#Post#: 85923--------------------------------------------------
Enfield Council PCN Code 32J (Driving Wrong Way) Sign
Obscured Behind Parking Bay
DIR By: dingus
Date: August 16, 2025, 6:43 am
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Hi all,
Ive received a Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) from Enfield Council
and would like advice before I submit my challenge.
PCN details:
Contravention code: 32J Failing to proceed in the direction
shown by the arrow on a blue sign (driving wrong way)
Location: Pretoria Road North / Shaftesbury Road N18
Date of alleged contravention: 07/08/2025 at 10:57
Date of Notice: 13/08/2025
What Happened
I turned into Shaftesbury Road from Parkstone Avenue. At the
time I did not see any one-way sign.
On inspection, I found the blue arrow sign is positioned
directly behind a designated parking bay. This bay is regularly
occupied by vans and lorries from nearby businesses. When a tall
vehicle is present, the sign is completely hidden from
approaching drivers.
I revisited the site and also checked Google Maps both confirm
that the sign is obscured whenever the bay is in use. I have
attached photos to illustrate this.
Grounds of Appeal
Inadequate Signage
TSRGD 2016 requires signs to be clear and visible at all times.
Enfield have installed the one-way sign directly behind a
parking bay, meaning it is frequently obscured.
A driver turning from Parkstone Avenue cannot reasonably be
expected to see the restriction.
Procedural Impropriety PCN Wording
The PCN states that the council may disregard any
representations received after 28 days from the date of the
PCN.
The law says the period runs from the date of service (when the
notice is deemed received).
Next Steps
Im considering:
Submitting an informal challenge highlighting both signage
issues and the PCN defect.
If rejected, pursuing this to formal representation and London
Tribunals if needed.
Questions for the forum
Does the PCN wording point give me a solid procedural
impropriety argument on its own?
Should I rely mainly on the obscured signage, or run both
arguments in parallel?
Has anyone here seen Enfield PCNs cancelled on this basis
before?
Thanks in advance photos attached for clarity.
#Post#: 85934--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enfield Council PCN Code 32J (Driving Wrong Way) Sign
Obscured Behind Parking Bay
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: August 16, 2025, 8:06 am
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So here (2022) demonstrating yr point about vans
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/LnW2Mk5HiUnD4P5AA
(2024) and showing the sign
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/oR6RfubUeLVeytTg7
But in 2022 there is a clear turn right marking on the
carriageway - is it still there?
Is there a video of the contravention or any council photos?
Presumably the camera caught you emerging into Pretoria
Rd.North?
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Re: Enfield Council PCN Code 32J (Driving Wrong Way) Sign
Obscured Behind Parking Bay
DIR By: dingus
Date: August 16, 2025, 8:56 am
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Thanks for confirming.
I believe the road marking is still there but need to double
check
Someone said on FB the following:
"your contraviction only refers to the blue sign. i checked on
google street view. If there is no change to the signage since
mar 2022, then let them know you entered shaftesbury rd from
parkstone ave. you noticed no blue sign. there is a removal
company on that location, and there are usually many large
vehicles that park in front of the sign making it invisible. If
the blue sign is not visible then there is no contraviction."
Attached the council images
You can view the video evidence below
EF99174738
PJ60VYC
HTML https://parkingservices.itsvc.co.uk/enfield/notices/
Someone also mentioned:
"I think there is a technical error on the PCN which could
render it void. It says they may disregard any representations
received after 28 days from the date of the PCN. The law says
they may only do this after 28 days from when the PCN is served.
This is probably enough to get the PCN thrown out."
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Re: Enfield Council PCN Code 32J (Driving Wrong Way) Sign
Obscured Behind Parking Bay
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: August 16, 2025, 4:18 pm
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Re: Enfield Council PCN Code 32J (Driving Wrong Way) Sign
Obscured Behind Parking Bay
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: August 16, 2025, 4:48 pm
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The signs as the car exits the street show quite plainly that
this is a one-way street, so why are there no 'No Entry' signs
at the T-junction where one must turn right, not left ? The
signage here is quite laughable in its inadequacy, showing how
cavalier the council are in following Regulation 18 of LATOR.
Yes, I know, stupidity and thickness is obviously a
qualification for working in a council traffic department.
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Re: Enfield Council PCN Code 32J (Driving Wrong Way) Sign
Obscured Behind Parking Bay
DIR By: dingus
Date: August 16, 2025, 5:22 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> The signs as the car exits the street show quite plainly that
this is a one-way street, so why are there no 'No Entry' signs
at the T-junction where one must turn right, not left ? The
signage here is quite laughable in its inadequacy, showing how
cavalier the council are in following Regulation 18 of LATOR.
>
> Yes, I know, stupidity and thickness is obviously a
qualification for working in a council traffic department.
>
--- End Quote ---
What are my grounds of appeal here?
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Re: Enfield Council PCN Code 32J (Driving Wrong Way) Sign
Obscured Behind Parking Bay
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: August 17, 2025, 12:58 am
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The video shows the vehicle emerging from Hawthorn Road, rather
than Parkstone Avenue, as posted earlier
So here,
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/NSgD6TRbn9GvocwZ9
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/Jtu2HwJzJovGMDndA
and not as posted earlier.
Here the blue one-way sign is heaviliy surrounded by a sea of
blue commercial signage, and is still liable to being obscured
by parked high-sided vehicles, tho' there is still the
turn-right sign painted on the carriageway at the end of
Hawthorn Road.
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Re: Enfield Council PCN Code 32J (Driving Wrong Way) Sign
Obscured Behind Parking Bay
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: August 17, 2025, 6:04 am
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Where's the PCN?
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Re: Enfield Council PCN Code 32J (Driving Wrong Way) Sign
Obscured Behind Parking Bay
DIR By: dingus
Date: August 17, 2025, 7:28 am
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
> Where's the PCN?
>
--- End Quote ---
I have attached is a pdf to my original post. Resharing here as
images
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Re: Enfield Council PCN Code 32J (Driving Wrong Way) Sign
Obscured Behind Parking Bay
DIR By: Pastmybest
Date: August 17, 2025, 7:35 am
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Grounds to challenge is that the contravention did not occur The
signage was not visible so there can be no contravention
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