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       #Post#: 86081--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL Red Route CC46 - Commercial Road E1 on  25/07/25 @
       18:30. Notice date 01/08/25
   DIR By: JOJO1209
       Date: August 18, 2025, 5:00 am
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       The Ticket was issued for a Red Route and not a bus lane. Yes I
       can see the bus lane sign from The TFL photos but the PCN CC
       says red Route not bus lane.My car was parked loading inside the
       red route box.
       There are bus lanes all along Commercial road but all the red
       Route boxes are inside the bus lane.
       Sorry but am I missing something. It will be helpful to know.
       #Post#: 86097--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL Red Route CC46 - Commercial Road E1 on  25/07/25 @
       18:30. Notice date 01/08/25
   DIR By: SITR
       Date: August 18, 2025, 6:11 am
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       It's the hours of operation that are at issue here.
       You're parked in a Red Route parking bay at 6:30pm. The bay is
       only operational from 10am-4pm. Outide those hours it's a Bus
       Lane on a Red Route.
       The Red Route is active 7am-7pm. You actually parked next to the
       sign.
       #Post#: 86137--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL Red Route CC46 - Commercial Road E1 on  25/07/25 @
       18:30. Notice date 01/08/25
   DIR By: JOJO1209
       Date: August 18, 2025, 7:57 am
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       Are you saying that loading and unloading is not allowed out
       those times ?
       #Post#: 86149--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL Red Route CC46 - Commercial Road E1 on  25/07/25 @
       18:30. Notice date 01/08/25
   DIR By: SITR
       Date: August 18, 2025, 8:30 am
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       00:00-07:00 it's a bus lane.
       07:00-10:00 it's a Red Route.
       10:00-16:00 it's a Red Route parking bay where you can park for
       1hr & must not return within 2hrs
       16:00-19:00 it's a Red Route.
       19:00-00:00 it's a bus lane.
       Your PCN is for 18:30, when it's a Red Route and there's no
       stopping on an active Red Route - it says so with both the
       traffic symbol and in words on the sign.
       #Post#: 86548--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL Red Route CC46 - Commercial Road E1 on  25/07/25 @
       18:30. Notice date 01/08/25
   DIR By: JOJO1209
       Date: August 20, 2025, 1:40 pm
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       Thanks for the breakdown.
       Are you saying that there is no chance of making a successful
       representation on the basis of loading and unloading?
       Are there any other grounds to make a successful appeal?
       Thanks
       #Post#: 86553--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL Red Route CC46 - Commercial Road E1 on  25/07/25 @
       18:30. Notice date 01/08/25
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: August 20, 2025, 2:09 pm
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       [member=119]JOJO1209[/member] please look at the email I've just
       sent you.
       #Post#: 86557--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL Red Route CC46 - Commercial Road E1 on  25/07/25 @
       18:30. Notice date 01/08/25
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: August 20, 2025, 2:17 pm
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       I can't see anything, sorry to say it.
       #Post#: 86581--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL Red Route CC46 - Commercial Road E1 on  25/07/25 @
       18:30. Notice date 01/08/25
   DIR By: SITR
       Date: August 20, 2025, 4:44 pm
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       --- Quote from: JOJO1209 link ---
       >
       > Thanks for the breakdown.
       > Are you saying that there is no chance of making a successful
       representation on the basis of loading and unloading?
       > Are there any other grounds to make a successful appeal?
       > Thanks
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You're bang to rights as far as the actual offence goes, but
       there may be a procedural/technical error that
       [member=1]cp8759[/member] cab tell you about.
       #Post#: 86649--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL Red Route CC46 - Commercial Road E1 on  25/07/25 @
       18:30. Notice date 01/08/25
   DIR By: JOJO1209
       Date: August 21, 2025, 7:46 am
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       Thanks
       #Post#: 90076--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL Red Route CC46 - Commercial Road E1 on  25/07/25 @
       18:30. Notice date 01/08/25
   DIR By: JOJO1209
       Date: September 15, 2025, 1:25 pm
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       Need some advice. I visited the PCN location and discovered that
       the time plate / Red Route sign is facing the other way. A
       number of the times plates / signs on Commercial Road have been
       turned around or defaced.
       Will this make a difference to my appeal ?
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