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#Post#: 85613--------------------------------------------------
NTK from UKPC for not parking within Bay marking. Beckton Retail
Park.
DIR By: Lut
Date: August 13, 2025, 5:24 pm
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I am the registered keeper of the vehicle, I received this NTK
as you can see attached. The driver seems to have parked the car
in the car park and went into the shops. It looks to me that the
red car parked next to my vehicle is also over the bay marking.
This could have therefore forced the driver to park awkwardly
and not within the markings. This can be seen in the pics
attached.
Google maps link to parking location:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/Zc8V2vWZtLWTnkQb8?g_st=ac
Parking charge date is 06/08/25. Please advise on next steps to
appeal.
Thank you.
#Post#: 85636--------------------------------------------------
Re: NTK from UKPC for not parking within Bay marking. Beckton
Retail Park.
DIR By: b789
Date: August 14, 2025, 4:19 am
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Easy one to deal with… as long as the unknown drivers identity
is not revealed. There is no legal obligation on the known
keeper (the recipient of the Notice to Keeper (NtK)) to reveal
the identity of the unknown driver and no inference or
assumptions can be made.
The NtK is not compliant with all the requirements of PoFA which
means that if the unknown driver is not identified, they cannot
transfer liability for the charge from the unknown driver to the
known keeper.
Use the following as your appeal. No need to embellish or remove
anything from it:
--- Quote ---
> I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking
charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I
will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your
client landowner.
>
> As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL
the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper
of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even
substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no
admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions
can be drawn. UKPC has relied on contract law allegations of
breach against the driver only.
>
> The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have
been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation
of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable.
UKPC have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a
complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.
--- End Quote ---
Come back when the initial appeal is rejected for your POPLA
appeal. The NtK does not comply with PoFA 9(2)(a) as there is no
period of parking specified.
#Post#: 85689--------------------------------------------------
Re: NTK from UKPC for not parking within Bay marking. Beckton
Retail Park.
DIR By: Lut
Date: August 14, 2025, 10:00 am
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Thank you. I will send the appeal as written above and get back
once I've received a response. Much appreciated.
#Post#: 89283--------------------------------------------------
Re: NTK from UKPC for not parking within Bay marking. Beckton
Retail Park.
DIR By: Lut
Date: September 10, 2025, 3:15 am
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The initial appeal was rejected as expected. And now need to
appeal to POPLA. Please advise on next steps. Thank you.
And I can't see attachments option to add a picture of response
letter for some reason.
#Post#: 89285--------------------------------------------------
Re: NTK from UKPC for not parking within Bay marking. Beckton
Retail Park.
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: September 10, 2025, 3:24 am
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If you scroll to the top of the private parking forum there's a
post called "READ THIS FIRST" that includes a guide to attaching
images.
#Post#: 89308--------------------------------------------------
Re: NTK from UKPC for not parking within Bay marking. Beckton
Retail Park.
DIR By: Lut
Date: September 10, 2025, 5:40 am
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Please see rejection response letter to initial appeal below.
Please advise on appeal to POPLA.
HTML https://imgur.com/a/OJABczS
#Post#: 89315--------------------------------------------------
Re: NTK from UKPC for not parking within Bay marking. Beckton
Retail Park.
DIR By: b789
Date: September 10, 2025, 6:03 am
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So do a search of the forum for any recent POPLA appeals and put
one together and show it before you send it.
#Post#: 89921--------------------------------------------------
Re: NTK from UKPC for not parking within Bay marking. Beckton
Retail Park.
DIR By: Lut
Date: September 14, 2025, 1:37 pm
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I don't have any experience in doing a POPLA appeal and did a
search but couldn't find anything similar to mine. Any chance
you can help me with a draft or show me one I can use please.
Thank you.
#Post#: 90100--------------------------------------------------
Re: NTK from UKPC for not parking within Bay marking. Beckton
Retail Park.
DIR By: Lut
Date: September 15, 2025, 4:37 pm
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Is anyone able to help me put together a POPLA appeal for the
above case. Thanks. Will be much appreciated
#Post#: 90104--------------------------------------------------
Re: NTK from UKPC for not parking within Bay marking. Beckton
Retail Park.
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: September 15, 2025, 5:16 pm
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We are unable to write a POPLA appeal from scratch for you, but
if you can draft something we can work with that.
UKPC are one of the most prolific parking companies that we deal
with here, "not parked within a marked bay" is a common reason
for PCNs, and the PoFA fail already mentioned by b789 is
particularly common, so searching for these should yield plenty
of results.
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