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Re: MET Stansted PCN not sure which car park
DIR By: willowweb
Date: October 1, 2025, 10:36 am
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I thought it was included. Please see here;
HTML https://ibb.co/zhVLnTq2
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Re: MET Stansted PCN not sure which car park
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: October 1, 2025, 10:42 am
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But where is that within the evidence pack? And where is the
'link' they refer to?
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Re: MET Stansted PCN not sure which car park
DIR By: willowweb
Date: October 1, 2025, 10:44 am
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I have realised that the link does not show the full objection
document . I don't have Adobe and I can't download the full
thing to save it.
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Re: MET Stansted PCN not sure which car park
DIR By: willowweb
Date: October 1, 2025, 10:47 am
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I think the document is too large. I just tried uploading the
full doc but the last pages are not viewable.
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Re: MET Stansted PCN not sure which car park
DIR By: willowweb
Date: October 1, 2025, 10:59 am
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The only way I could do it was to print off the rest of the
document and scan it. Please see here:
HTML https://ibb.co/yBPxBd6k
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Re: MET Stansted PCN not sure which car park
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: October 1, 2025, 11:11 am
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Link for reference:
HTML https://assets.live.dxp.maginfrastructure.com/f/73114/x/df8f2e7b97/stn-injunction-stansted-airport-court-order.pdf?_gl=1*vi0z7d*_gc_au*NzgzOTEyMzEzLjE3NTkxNjMzNDE<br
/>
HTML https://assets.live.dxp.maginfrastructure.com/f/73114/x/df8f2e7b97/stn-injunction-stansted-airport-court-order.pdf?_gl=1*vi0z7d*_gc_au*NzgzOTEyMzEzLjE3NTkxNjMzNDE
I'm not convinced by their inference that the map in that court
order is a map defining the boundaries for the application of
byelaws. It identifies the land that is to be considered
"Stansted Airport" for the purposes of that case, which would
seem to be a different matter. It's hard to see how that map
would amend or supercede any map that forms part of the byelaws.
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Re: MET Stansted PCN not sure which car park
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: October 1, 2025, 12:44 pm
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HTML https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/64d0fc30e5491a00134b5946/Design___Access_Statement_-_checked.pdf
Scroll to page 8 for existing site plan.
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Re: MET Stansted PCN not sure which car park
DIR By: b789
Date: October 1, 2025, 1:36 pm
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Below is text you can paste into your POPLA “Comments on
operator evidence” box. It keeps the original point intact, adds
the operator-pack rebuttal, includes HTML links to each map
source, and explains why there can be no keeper liability.
--- Quote ---
> Section E – Operator’s map and boundary claim
>
> The operator’s “boundary” plan in Section E is not an airport
estate boundary at all. It is a red-line taken from a High Court
interim protest injunction that defines where protest-control
measures apply for a limited legal purpose and period. The Order
itself defines “Stansted Airport” only as “the land shown…on
Plan 2 to the Claim Form,” and it includes review and service
provisions (e.g. notices at locations marked “X”) that underline
its narrow, enforcement nature. See:
>
>
HTML https://www.stanstedairport.com/injunction/
>
> This is not an operator boundary plan, does not purport to fix
the airport’s statutory/operational extent, and is therefore
irrelevant to the “relevant land” analysis under Schedule 4
PoFA.
>
> By contrast, the appellant’s map is drawn from the airport
operator’s own planning submission—the Stansted Terminal
Extension Design & Access Statement (July 2023)—which describes
the airport landholding and shows the site plan used by the
operator and the planning authority to define the estate context
(“the land within the airport’s boundaries is approximately 957
hectares”). This is precisely the type of authoritative operator
material POPLA should prefer when understanding the airport
boundary as a whole. Source:
>
>
HTML https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/64d0fc30e5491a00134b5946/Design___Access_Statement_-_checked.pdf<br
/>(page 8, ‘Site Plan’).
>
> Accordingly, POPLA should dismiss the injunction red-line as a
litigation exhibit with a limited purpose and no bearing on the
airport estate’s full extent, and instead rely on the operator’s
own planning document for boundary context. On that basis—and as
shown in the appellant’s evidence—Southgate Park sits within the
airport estate notwithstanding any narrower area delineated for
protest-injunction enforcement.
>
> Keeper liability (PoFA) cannot arise. Schedule 4 only applies
on “relevant land”. Land subject to statutory control/byelaws
(such as airport land within the operator’s boundary) is
excluded from the definition of “relevant land”, so PoFA keeper
liability is unavailable. The operator has not produced any
operator or planning-authority boundary plan that displaces the
airport operator’s own material; instead they rely on a
protest-injunction map that is not a boundary instrument. POPLA
should therefore find that this site is not “relevant land” and
that the keeper cannot be held liable under Schedule 4 PoFA.
>
> For ease of reference:
>
> Operator’s injunction map –
HTML https://www.stanstedairport.com/injunction/
>
> Appellant’s authoritative boundary/context map –
HTML https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/64d0fc30e5491a00134b5946/Design___Access_Statement_-_checked.pdf
>
>
--- End Quote ---
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Re: MET Stansted PCN not sure which car park
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: October 1, 2025, 3:28 pm
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It seems most likely that the difference in maps is down to land
ownership / control.
If you examine the contract between the landowner and the
parking company you'll see that the parking company's contract
is with 'Tabacon Stansted 2 Limited' and not with 'Manchester
Airport PLC' (who own the bulk of Stansted Airport) and
therefore it would seem that there is more than one packet of
land which is under statutory control at the airport.
It therefore seems reasonable that 'Manchester Airport Ltd' only
included the land under their control in their injunction
attempt v Just Stop Oil - land deemed outside of their control
was not therefore included in the 'injunction map' which of
course is the map which the parking company desperately use in
their communications etc.
Lazy work from the parking company but we know that they are
desperate people.
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Re: MET Stansted PCN not sure which car park
DIR By: willowweb
Date: October 2, 2025, 3:03 am
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Thank you, I have pasted the response you gave and will wait to
hear....
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