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       #Post#: 87262--------------------------------------------------
       Re: MET Stansted PCN not sure which car park
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: August 26, 2025, 8:23 am
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       Have they provided a POPLA code?
       #Post#: 87264--------------------------------------------------
       Re: MET Stansted PCN not sure which car park
   DIR By: willowweb
       Date: August 26, 2025, 8:29 am
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       No, that is the full message (other than the ABN detail and the
       registration/ keeper details)
       #Post#: 87273--------------------------------------------------
       Re: MET Stansted PCN not sure which car park
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: August 26, 2025, 9:08 am
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       --- Quote from: willowweb link ---
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       > No, that is the full message (other than the ABN detail and
       the registration/ keeper details)
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       So it looks like the last ditch fishing attempt to get you to
       identify the driver. Rejection plus POPLA code should be next.
       POPLA has repeatedly upheld appeals since it’s not “relevant
       land” so as long as the driver is not identified and POPLA is
       led by the nose it should do so again. Just search here for
       large numbers of similar cases.
       Put
       Stansted
       into the search box.
       #Post#: 87278--------------------------------------------------
       Re: MET Stansted PCN not sure which car park
   DIR By: willowweb
       Date: August 26, 2025, 9:38 am
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       They are saying that it wasn't incurred at the airport but at
       Starbucks, is that still not relevant land?
       thanks
       #Post#: 87280--------------------------------------------------
       Re: MET Stansted PCN not sure which car park
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: August 26, 2025, 9:53 am
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       --- Quote from: willowweb link ---
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       > They are saying that it wasn't incurred at the airport but at
       Starbucks, is that still not relevant land?
       > thanks
       >
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       No, it is within the defined airport boundary and therefore not
       ‘relevant land’.
       They lie because then you might just pay up. They are only
       interested in your money.
       Why do you believe them, with a vested interest so large that it
       will block the sun, rather than those of us here who try to help
       you and have nothing apart from personal satisfaction to gain
       from it?
       #Post#: 87282--------------------------------------------------
       Re: MET Stansted PCN not sure which car park
   DIR By: b789
       Date: August 26, 2025, 10:01 am
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       Ignore the moronic scammers at MET. They always claim that
       Southgate Park is not covered by byelaws but no matter how they
       squeal over it, it does not alter the fact that the land is
       under statutory control because it is within the boundary of
       Stansted Airport. Any land under statutory control is not
       relevant for the purposes of PoFA, which means they cannot hold
       the Keeper liable, only the driver who is unknown to them unless
       the Keeper blabs it, inadvertently or otherwise.
       When they reject the appeal, you can appeal to POPLA with an
       easy appeal, which if you do a search of the forum for
       'Stansted' and you will find many POPLA appeals for this
       location which include this boundary map of the airport, showing
       clearly that the location is within the statutory boundary and
       is therefore covered by airport byelaws and is therefore no
       relevant for the purposes of PoFA:
  HTML https://i.imgur.com/8aRkbjb.jpeg
       #Post#: 87369--------------------------------------------------
       Re: MET Stansted PCN not sure which car park
   DIR By: willowweb
       Date: August 27, 2025, 1:41 am
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       I appreciate your help but you don't need to be quite so
       aggressive in your answer!  Please understand that you know a
       lot more about this than the people asking these questions, we
       are just trying to fully understand the situation and our
       position and make sure we don't get fined.
       #Post#: 87374--------------------------------------------------
       Re: MET Stansted PCN not sure which car park
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: August 27, 2025, 3:02 am
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       Nobody has been aggressive towards you. This is a busy forum
       where people offer advice for free. The advice will sometimes be
       brief, which may appear blunt.
       #Post#: 87380--------------------------------------------------
       Re: MET Stansted PCN not sure which car park
   DIR By: willowweb
       Date: August 27, 2025, 3:42 am
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       Do I just need to wait for them to reject the appeal or do I
       reply to them now?
       Thanks
       #Post#: 87453--------------------------------------------------
       Re: MET Stansted PCN not sure which car park
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: August 27, 2025, 10:31 am
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       You could just wait for the 14 day 'hold' to expire and for them
       to reject your appeal.
       In the meantime, I would recommend doing some searching on this
       forum for other PCNs issued at this same site. You will see
       examples of POPLA appeals that you will be able to use almost
       verbatim to draft up one for your own case (don't submit without
       showing us a draft).
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