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       #Post#: 84428--------------------------------------------------
       Havering - Notice to Owner following rejected appeal of PCN
       attached to vehicle
   DIR By: Naomi_Brooks
       Date: August 6, 2025, 9:21 am
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       Hi guys,
       Our driver received a PCN for parking in front of bins to
       deliver to a restaurant.  Kerb markings are not clear/ are worn,
       and the signage is not close to the vehicle. Also, the vehicle
       is parked near bins.   Our appeal was rejected, and I have been
       waiting for the Notice to Owner so that I can appeal again.
       We received a PCN in March of last year for parking in the same
       place, but we appealed on the grounds of unclear kerb markings
       and argued that having the wheelie bins implied loading was
       acceptable.  Our appeal was accepted, and they said that after
       considering our challenge and comments they had decided to
       cancel the penalty on that occasion.
       Before I make a formal representation, does anyone have any
       advice?
       I have attached an evidence pic.  Our driver took his own pics
       too that I can upload when I have them.
       Thanks for reading  :)
       #Post#: 84437--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havering - Notice to Owner following rejected appeal of PCN
       attached to vehicle
   DIR By: Enceladus
       Date: August 6, 2025, 10:07 am
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       I see a picture of a van beside a big bin. However there's no
       sign of the PCN.
       Please post up the PCN. Since this is a served on site PCN then
       please post up all of it unredacted.
       #Post#: 84440--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havering - Notice to Owner following rejected appeal of PCN
       attached to vehicle
   DIR By: Naomi_Brooks
       Date: August 6, 2025, 10:19 am
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       Hi,
       Thanks for the response. I have attached the pic of the PCN.
       #Post#: 84453--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havering - Notice to Owner following rejected appeal of PCN
       attached to vehicle
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: August 6, 2025, 10:53 am
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       Need to see your challenge and their rejection.
       As it's Havering I assume there is no reoffer of discount.
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       #Post#: 84460--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havering - Notice to Owner following rejected appeal of PCN
       attached to vehicle
   DIR By: roythebus
       Date: August 6, 2025, 11:39 am
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       If it's no loading at any time, how do the bins get emptied?
       #Post#: 84465--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havering - Notice to Owner following rejected appeal of PCN
       attached to vehicle
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: August 6, 2025, 12:50 pm
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       Is this the sum total of their evidential photos and are you the
       registered keeper?
       #Post#: 84467--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havering - Notice to Owner following rejected appeal of PCN
       attached to vehicle
   DIR By: Dave Green
       Date: August 6, 2025, 1:21 pm
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       --- Quote from: roythebus link ---
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       > If it's no loading at any time, how do the bins get emptied?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm not sure if this is the correct part of their parking reg's
       but if not, I'm sure they will have it covered elsewhere:
       [img]
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/m8jWz3g[/img]
       #Post#: 84538--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havering - Notice to Owner following rejected appeal of PCN
       attached to vehicle
   DIR By: Naomi_Brooks
       Date: August 7, 2025, 3:56 am
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       --- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
       >
       > Is this the sum total of their evidential photos and are you
       the registered keeper?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       There are 5 pics in total, but I can only upload 4.
       #Post#: 84543--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havering - Notice to Owner following rejected appeal of PCN
       attached to vehicle
   DIR By: Enceladus
       Date: August 7, 2025, 4:28 am
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       Does this Google Street View show
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/iGaPUTkn1UQAkNgW8
       the correct location?
       #Post#: 84545--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havering - Notice to Owner following rejected appeal of PCN
       attached to vehicle
   DIR By: Naomi_Brooks
       Date: August 7, 2025, 4:33 am
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       --- Quote from: Enceladus link ---
       >
       > Does this Google Street View show
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/iGaPUTkn1UQAkNgW8
       the correct location?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yes, the street view is the correct location
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