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       #Post#: 84369--------------------------------------------------
       Southwark to refund recipients of bus lane PCNs issued under the
        wrong act!
       By: Hippocrates Date: August 6, 2025, 4:47 am
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       Having threatened them with Judicial Review, they have now
       stated this:
       1. How many code 34 j PCNs have been issued under the London
       Local Authorities
       and Transport for London Act 2003 Act?
       10,422 have been issued on an incorrect template
       
       2. How much revenue has been raised?
       None - they are all to be cancelled and refunded or £485,220.00
       which is to be
       refunded
       3. When was this wording introduced?
       The incorrect template was copied over the bus lane template on
       12 February
       2025, the correct bus lane template was put back in place on 12
       June 2025.
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       I have written confirmation from one officer that their PCNs
       were correct! If I went into the classroom and described
       Beethoven as a Baroque composer, I would be given my P45:
       Southwark Parking Services Admail 4197 London SE1 1ZW T: 0344
       800 2736 E: parking@southwark.gov.uk
       Notice of Rejection of Representations - Road Traffic Act 1991
       (as amended) London Local Authorities Acts 1996 (as amended)
       CCTV - Bus Lane Contravention
       Dear (Mr Bond)
       Thank you for your recent representations made in connection
       with the issue of the above penalty charge notice (PCN).
       We have carefully considered what you say but we have decided
       not to cancel your Penalty Charge Notice (PCN).
       We sent you a PCN because our camera evidence shows your vehicle
       in a bus lane at a time when only buses are allowed there.
       The bus lane is enforced at all times.
       You stated that the contents of the payment website is unhinged.
       We are satisfied that the payment website is satisfactory and
       provides all required information.
       Whilst we acknowledge you stated that the notice was issued
       under the wrong act; this is incorrect.
       I have contacted one newspaper already.
       #Post#: 84441--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Southwark to refund recipients of bus lane PCNs issued under
        the wrong act!
       By: mrmustard Date: August 6, 2025, 10:23 am
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       A fabulous bit of work.
       #Post#: 84482--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Southwark to refund recipients of bus lane PCNs issued under
        the wrong act!
       By: Hippocrates Date: August 6, 2025, 2:19 pm
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       Thanks mrm!  More to follow...............The dearly departed
       Nigel Wise is looking down favourably, I  hope, on my humble
       efforts I am sure. I miss him. 8) He got Richmond to refund a
       million and the parking manager sacked.  The guy who took over,
       Stephen Hardy, was a model parking manager who actually listened
       and applied common sense. I formed a good friendship with him
       and he subsequently moved to Epsom - but I made it quite clear
       that I was a "poacher" and not a "gamekeeper" as Nigel would
       say.
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       Re: Southwark to refund recipients of bus lane PCNs issued under
        the wrong act!
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       #Post#: 85910--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Southwark to refund recipients of bus lane PCNs issued under
        the wrong act!
       By: Hippocrates Date: August 16, 2025, 5:44 am
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       De nada. Story should be in the press tomorrow. If one divides
       the figure to be paid back by the number of rate payers, I
       reckon it works out at £1.58 per household, not including the
       cost of sending out fake PCNs and fake notices of rejection.
       485,220.00 divided by 306,400.
       #Post#: 85975--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Southwark to refund recipients of bus lane PCNs issued under
        the wrong act!
       By: Hippocrates Date: August 17, 2025, 2:14 am
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       #Post#: 86011--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Southwark to refund recipients of bus lane PCNs issued under
        the wrong act!
       By: mickR Date: August 17, 2025, 9:33 am
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       Great work mr Hippo &#128079;
       #Post#: 86040--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Southwark to refund recipients of bus lane PCNs issued under
        the wrong act!
       By: Hippocrates Date: August 17, 2025, 3:30 pm
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       [quote author=mickR link=topic=7562.msg86011#msg86011
       date=1755441193]
       Great work mr Hippo &#128079;
       [/quote]
       Thanks. [member=7]mrmustard[/member] has done a wonderful blog
       on this for which I am most grateful - he and I go back a few
       years.
       I wanted to use more "sexy" language and, to bastardise
       Aristotle's syllogism i.e. if A=B and B=C then A=C, I suggested
       this:
       Fake tickets=Fake Notices of Rejections=Real money.  8)
       The buck stops with the Parking Manager and not APCOA. Whoever
       it is should resign. I will be suing them, if necessary, for my
       costs in terms of educating them, having had the effrontery to
       write that I was incorrect.
       It is wholly unacceptable that an unpaid parking campaigner and
       representative at the London Tribunals should have to educate
       such incompetent staff who hold positions of power in that they
       issue defective  documents, including notices of rejection,
       which threaten people to pay the council. Following the story of
       last year in which I won a case against them (2240143117), they
       changed the wording to its correct version and then, for some
       reason, changed it again to the wrong Act! So, from June 12th,
       they have now produced four versions! This is an utter disgrace
       and heads should roll.
       More to follow: this is just the tip of the iceberg.
       #Post#: 86124--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Southwark to refund recipients of bus lane PCNs issued under
        the wrong act!
       By: astralite Date: August 18, 2025, 7:20 am
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       Latest news from Hippo.  ITV News at 6pm today (18 August) will
       have a report on this story filmed in Southwark this morning
       with you know who!  :)
       #Post#: 86138--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Southwark to refund recipients of bus lane PCNs issued under
        the wrong act!
       By: Hippocrates Date: August 18, 2025, 7:59 am
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       [member=15]astralite[/member] apologies. Now tomorrow at 18.00
       hrs I TV 1
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