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#Post#: 84253--------------------------------------------------
PCN issued after 14 days
DIR By: Leew914
Date: August 5, 2025, 10:38 am
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I have been asked to assist my daughter who has received a PCN
as RK for an alleged non payment of parking.
I will upload the PCN tomorrow, but what is clear from the
picture she sent me is that the event date and the issue date
are over a month apart - 34 days.
Will this be enough to appeal on its own and if so, is there a
standard response for this?
Thanks in advance.
#Post#: 84268--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued after 14 days
DIR By: Sander333
Date: August 5, 2025, 11:16 am
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As you suggest post up PCN for accurate advice so it can be
examined in detail
#Post#: 84270--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued after 14 days
DIR By: jfollows
Date: August 5, 2025, 11:18 am
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Also check the address and the date on the V5C.
#Post#: 86070--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued after 14 days
DIR By: Leew914
Date: August 18, 2025, 4:09 am
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Good morning all,
Sorry, there was a loss of the original notice and had to wait
for the reminder!
All addresses on V5 are correct, the notice was just outside of
the 14 days as required.
PCN redacted and attached.
#Post#: 86071--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued after 14 days
DIR By: JustLoveCars
Date: August 18, 2025, 4:13 am
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You've posted the reminder.
How about the original?
(Oh, and the way you've redacted the address isn't ideal, i.e. I
can see the postcode ends in JF)
#Post#: 86077--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued after 14 days
DIR By: b789
Date: August 18, 2025, 4:44 am
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A PCN reminder is useless. WE would need to know the actual
issue date of the ORIGINAL Notice to Keeper (NtK). However, it
is as rare as hens teeth for ParkingEye to fail to issue an NtK
for delivery within the relevant period.
So, working on the assumption that the original NtK was issued
correctly, we would need to first establish why the driver
received the PCN in the first place. Did the driver fail to pay
for parking or overstay a period of parking that had been paid
for?
In other words, is the allegation of the contravention correct?
If it is, then what defence or mitigation are you suggesting?
There is usually a flaw in all ParkingEye NtKs but you'd have to
be really persuasive to get POPLA to understand it. All PE NtKs
fail PoFA 9(2)(e)(i) as they fail to invite the Keeper to pay
the charge. They only tell the Keeper to pass the notice to the
driver and inform them of the details.
As you would have to explain this to POPLA, you first need to
appeal and only once that has been rejected, would you receive a
POPLA code. As the initial NtK was probably issued well over 28
days ago, they are not likely to accept an appeal at this stage,
which means too late to get a POPLA code.
Next is likely to be useless debt recovery letters which can be
safely ignored. Debt collectors are powerless to do anything
except to try and persuade the low-hanging fruit on the gullible
tree to pay up out of ignorance and fear.
What you need to know is that eventually, the Keeper will
receive a Letter of Claim (LoC). Depending on whether they have
farmed it out to a bulk litigation company or are doing it
through their own in-house legal team, will leave you with a
couple of options.
If they farm it out, you won't be paying a penny if you follow
the advice. If they keep it in house, you would only have a
50:50 chance of successfully defending it.
What do you want or intend to do?
#Post#: 86098--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued after 14 days
DIR By: Leew914
Date: August 18, 2025, 6:12 am
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The issue date was the same on the original PCN, it was
delivered early August, no other correspondence before then.
#Post#: 86100--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued after 14 days
DIR By: b789
Date: August 18, 2025, 6:16 am
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A postal Notice to Keeper (NtK) cannot have the same issue date
as the date of the contravention.
#Post#: 86104--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued after 14 days
DIR By: Leew914
Date: August 18, 2025, 6:26 am
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I have found the original PCN, attached.
Event date 27/26/25
Issue date 31/07/25
#Post#: 86105--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued after 14 days
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: August 18, 2025, 6:29 am
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If you are definitely the registered keeper then this is a rare
example of a ParkingEye golden ticket and you can appeal as the
keeper with the below:
[indent]Dear Sirs,
I have received your Parking Charge Notice (Ref: ________) for
vehicle registration mark ____ ___, in which you allege that the
driver has incurred a parking charge. I note from your
correspondence that you are not seeking to hold me liable as the
registered keeper, under Schedule 4 of the Protection of
Freedoms Act 2012 ("The Act"). You have chosen not to issue a
Notice to Keeper in accordance with The Act, and it is now too
late for you to do so.
There is no obligation for me to name the driver and I will not
be doing so. I am therefore unable to help you further with this
matter, and look forward to your confirmation that the charge
has been cancelled. If you choose to decline this appeal, you
must issue a POPLA code.
Yours,[/indent]
If appealing online, be careful there are no drop down/tick
boxes that cause you to identify who was driving, and keep a
close eye on your spam folder for their response. If they do not
respond within 28 days, chase them.
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